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Over the last week or so I have noticed that I have a lot more fun engaging in discussions on here as opposed to reddit.

On reddit i always felt like i was shouting into the void and there was nobody listening, which resulted in me becoming a lurker for the last 12 years.

Maybe it's the small size of this community, the lack of karma farmers, that I've finally lost my mind or a little bit of all of the above, but this place just feels like something special. I'm really looking forward to building the fediverse with all of you!

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Same, when I posted on reddit I felt rejected, even if what I said was something unimportant, there was always someone who made you feel like you were wrong for just participating, this is much better.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah Reddit had this fascination with being "right" all the timing and "owning" stupid people...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

*time

Sorry, I had to do it :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Sadly I've observed throughout the late 2010s how Reddit society gradually became about parroting the right opinion and walking on eggshells all the time.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I was never a lurker on reddit. I liked commenting, but the community feeling is much more substantial on kbin (and fediverse in general).

I find the engagement here more real than I ever did on reddit for twelve years.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

First thing I noticed when moving to kbin is that I see what I want to see, and have only talked to people who felt like humans so far.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely, but I think we will have to be vigilant to keep that culture here as the place continues to grow.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope we can do that while keeping gatekeeping to a minimum.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

100% agreed!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Exactly. On Reddit, most of the time there was not point commenting, because of the sheer size of the audience. Here, I can actually contribute!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Same here! I upvote/boost a lot more than I did on Reddit, and my threshold for commenting is much lower than it used to be. Part of it is that I want this place to succeed, so I want to help it be more active. I absolutely agree that this community is smaller, friendlier, and less cynical than what we had on Reddit. That's the other part, it's really lowered my threshold of engagement.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Couldn't agree more. Exactly the same for me.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The small size and lack of content really makes me want to push things for the communities I loved to lurk on Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

@Ethanice

@Deralax

Nascent "scene" culture is fun.

Crazy what the ability to affect meaningful change does for the soul. Also helps that we're sticking it to spez in the process.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've started more posts and added more comments through kbin in a week than I did in 12 years on reddit. The community is so much smaller and comments are actually read instead of lost in the sea of shitposting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh yeah - that reminds me of another thing I don’t miss about reddit: getting to a thread a few hours late and knowing your comment is unlikely to ever be seen under the pile that beat you to it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah. Honestly, with that problem I think a random sort would have helped significantly, and the nice thing about Lemmy is that since it is open-source, if I have the time I can contribute that to the codebase.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah. I always enjoyed those threads with random (contest mode) or new sort. Like even the huge SuccessionTV discussion threads I got people seeing my comments because of the sorting, despite there being thousands of comments in the thread

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same here. What's this, I can binge post AND feel good about it? Hehehe

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yep, for sure!!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

very true

on reddit i only read

I made my own magazine here for whatever reason its quite fun

Alot of work is needed on the website but it'll get there

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It's kind of like someone took Reddit and reinjected a little blogging and a little old internet back into it. Feels refreshing.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also am feeling this. It feels super refreshing to be here for the same reasons. I felt like when I commented on stuff I'd get ignored too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I actually had a civil and decently productive conversation with a maga person.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Likewise, I really love the more tight knit community on the fediverse, feels much more fitting for contributing

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I've always felt kind of anxious about commenting or posting so in over 10 years on Reddit I only posted and commented a handful of times. I only joined kbin yesterday and I feel such an urge to properly engage with the community that it has made me push past my anxiety. I absolutely love it!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same here ... but commenting, sharing and posting Lemmy for the past few days and I just got into kbin ... I'm still learning and I find it is really engaging my brain to try to figure out what is happening ... on reddit I was a mindless zombie just rehashing content I had shared a hundreds times before

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

welcome to kbin!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I feel the same. I never tried to mod a sub on reddit but felt compelled to do so here (so I'd have a home for my otherwise newly orphaned posts).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel the same and am wondering what I can post. I've been lurking for so long the thought of submitting anything isn't even in my mind. Good to switch gears and shake things up, start seeing the world a little different like what can I share, not just what can I consume.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

this is such a wholesome post, i love it. im enjoying my time here too, really glad to see the same for others!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Reddit is full of bots, dude. It wouldn't surprise me if 40% of the posts were automated.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

same, i'm trying to encourage myself to contribute more by making an account that has a name unique to anything else i'm on so i can have the anonymity

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

with 4 comments over 4 days I don't know how much of this is either a secret karma farm or honeymoon phase, but at the same time I don't want to force you to exert more posting than you feel like

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It could definitely just be a honeymoon phase, but I also sense that opinions seem to be more valued here.

I'm certainly not trying to karma farm. I haven't seen any total "karma" score on kbin, and don't think that there should be. I think a total karma score encourages reposts and very predictable comments all in the name of increasing the score.

I myself only felt compelled to create this post because i wanted to do my part to try and create content for others to interact with. The biggest advantage reddit has over alternatives is the sheer amount of content, and the only way to compete is for all of us to populate this place with the content we want ro see.

Social anxiety will most likely prevail in the end and i'll return to lurking, but im not going to let it stop me from having a good time while it hibernates.

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[–] Lund3 4 points 1 year ago

Hey 4 comments over 4 days is alot more than 4 comments over 12 years!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I think it's the same for me but to be honest I mostly participated in smaller communities on reddit and here on the fediverse the communities are even smaller. If fediverse grows to the same size as reddit one day, believe me it's going to feel like shouting into the void again. Subreddits go to shit if they get too large (and moderators aren't strict enough), and social networks in general just get too big for meaningful discussions or interactions with people eventually. We're just not built to handle that many different people and opinions per day and actually still see them as people to be empathized with.

[–] crazyminner 4 points 1 year ago

This is the exact reason why communism and anarchy would work. People love to do stuff when things are fair.

When you feel like you are just helping some rich person get more data on you, and you're being exploited you shut down.

When you are working towards something with other people and you all benefit from it you can do things that would normally be considered work and enjoy them!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

On Reddit, there was so much bot spam that you were guaranteed to have your post drowned out. Here, your post is guaranteed to be seen.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reddit posts would only get acknowledged if you said one of the pre-approved comments. Commenting felt pointless because so many of the upvoted and comments that actually got engaged with felt like they were written by a bot or just automatically generated by reddit.

"fuck about, find out"

"maybe, just maybe..."

*"I'll take for 500, Alex" *

"They had us in the first half, not gonna lie"

I wonder how may of the commenters were just bots.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah. Today I found Grimdank and I really want it to thrive on Lemmy. I even posted there and will do so repeatedly in the coming weeks.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every major forum/social media site has had this adoption curve. The early adopters are dedicated and can actually see their contributions make a difference. As the site attracts more and more casual users the quality of interactions descends to the lowest common denominator and loudest voices.

For that reason, I think there will always be demand for a "new thing" because those early adopter contributors are so good at making it happen.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I think I would like the FEDIVERSE even when its the "old thing" just because as far as I can tell, the product itself seems like a terrible place for investments and profits. Then again, I could be WAY off here.

Also, at the moment, there's an almost complete lack of marketing/advertising, which is REALLY nice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Feeling the same. I love commenting and posting, whereas on Reddit I was always nervous and felt like I was shouting into an empty void, like you said.

I hope it lasts, because it's so cozy here so far.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm more of a lurker but I'm more compelled to comment here because of the default sort algorithm in comments, you get a mix of newer and upvoted, so even if I comment on an older post, or one with a lot of comments I don't feel like I'm shouting to the void.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Absolutely agree. Some things need work (really feel like boost and favorite should be switched because imo the button that drops rep and visibility should be next to the button that raises them - it's just mildly confusing from a design standpoint) but so far I think I'm enjoying the interaction more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It does feel a bit better, but I still struggle to contribute. It feels like it's a bit noisy still - maybe I just need to reduce how much content I'm subscribed to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I’ve made more posts and comments here in the past week than I did on Reddit for a long time. I think I have 80 posts now it’s insane and like nearly 300 comments. This place is fun

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