- No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.
I'm not seeing it, unless website admins are a marginalised class.
this post was submitted on 27 Aug 2024
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This comment was in response to someone expressing regret about joining .ml if I recall correctly
Edit: I'm convinced all this guy does is camp out in front of his computer and wait for an excuse to abuse what itty bitty power he has.
Bigotry is when you hurt an admin's feelings, of course.
If any Lemmy.ml mods or admins are reading this:
Fuck you. Ban me, bitch.
They won't see it because they censor no-no words.
These same people insist that like-minded adults talking things out will produce a stateless utopia. It's funny, from a distance.
The lemmy.ml admins who do this kind of thing are proud tankies. Pro-Russia, Pro-China, Pro-North-Korea, authoritarian "communists" are a marginalized class, dontcha know?
I can somehow understand pro-China and less so, but still conceptionally grasp pro-Russia. But how on Earth can you really think NK is not a brainwash concentration camp?
Tankies operate on a very simple belief system.
US bad > Russia don't like US > Russia good
same for north korea, cuba, anything
We could call that the Chomsky fallacy.
I remember seeing to mod in the post commenting on someone's mention of North Korea. First he posted an image detailing the deaths caused by the US and South Korea during the Korean war, and that was it, no mention about NK specifically. Later he said that there was no proof that NK is brutally repressing its citizens. Then when someone said how everyone who fled NK said so, he said how they only do it for the shock value to get stories out and make money out of that, or something like that.
Basically people like that find anything anti-US as good, and if you say anything bad about those countries, they'll ask for proof and then call whatever you provide fake.
Later he said that there was no proof that NK is brutally repressing its citizens.
lmao
I also don't see anything when I close my eyes and plug my ears.
Basically, "capitalism bad = anything anti-capitalism good." And that's pretty ironic to both support both NK and China for that reason, since China is an authoritarian capitalist state operating under the name of communism.
I'm actually glad MLs have ramped up the pro north korea talk recently. I was starting to doubt being against these users that claim to be progressive, but then I saw them defend a clear-cut present-day dictatorship.
If you want rationality, don't look for it from tankies.
They are, they are admins on a .ml instance, being against them is abelism.
Not just any admin. Pretty sure that's the lead dev of lemmy and the jerboa android client.
Doesn't really matter. And knowing about how bad the lemmy back end works and the absolute lack of admin and mod tools its just further evidence of their inability.
Oh, I definitely wasn't saying that to imply it somehow makes them better, more that I would hope someone of that level of importance to this shit would learn to just run/build it and stay mostly hands off, not to play in the dirt. At the very least hide behind a separate user name.
So many open source projects get ruined because the creators/maintainers can't stop themselves from getting into fights with their users or community.
ableism
discrimination in favor of able-bodied people.
That still doesn't check out... unless you're implying they have cognitive impairments that prevent them from moderating as effectively as other instance admins 🤔
Well yeah. If you couldn't deduce that, you might be a victim of ableism yourself
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I think that technically speaking, under Marxist theory, admins are the oppressors/tyrants. The users are the proletariat. Of course the metaphor falls apart due to how easily the users can escape and the users don't pay taxes or anything
There was rumors that the .ml bouble is China funded. So they kinda are paid for by taxes if true.
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Defedding .ml has been one of the most benefitial decisions we have ever made. There's so much less toxicity!
Yeah, ML commenters consistently have some of the worst takes in the thread pretty much anywhere.
Lemmy.cafe is defederated from lemmy.ml? Are you guys defederated from hexbear and lemmygrad too? If so I may have found my new instance :o
I enjoy reading the posts about how the tianamen massacre never actually happened and how america is to blame for everything and if every country was like China the world would be a utopia
Embarrassing. I can't believe I donated to this guy.
They banned me recently since I was writing a comment talking about how many "memes" on [email protected] are oftentimes not even memes and just unfunny pushing communist agenda and how I was thinking about blocking the instance. It got a bit too many upvotes from them and I ended up getting banned. So in response I made this meme and posted it to [email protected]
Slrpnk does the same shit.
Oh I got banned from one of their communities today for comparing shooting down Russian drones to skeet shooting
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I dunno if scaring people off of their instance's communities is a deliberate attempt at building an echo chamber or just genuine dumbassery.
Honestly thank god the Lemmy devs made a platform that makes it so easy to avoid them.
Yeah, I've stopped any participation in any .ml community. I'll use any other instance version even if it's smaller. I haven't personally blocked the server yet, but it's getting closer.
Classic end of the horseshoe fragility.
Did he do anything else or was he banned just for expressing his opinion?
That’s pretty much it to my knowledge but the purged the user so nothing is in the mod logs, of course
Update: He did it again fellas!
How do you see who actually performed the mod action? It always just says mod when I look at the log.
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