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It turns out that more technology in cars isn’t necessarily something customers want, and it’s not really improving their driving experience. We know my thoughts on the matter, but I’ll do my best to stay impartial on this latest survey from JD Power that shows most customers don’t appreciate technology in cars unless they can see a clear benefit to them.

JD Power’s 2024 U.S. Tech Experience Index Study evaluated over 81,000 drivers’ experience with “advanced vehicle technologies” in 2024 model year vehicles after 90 days of ownership, It turned out to be a pretty mixed bag when it came to what people liked using. There are a number of tech features that customers like using because they feels that it answers their needs, but at the same time there is a whole lot that don’t get used very often or are continually annoying, according to the survey.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I love my car for the fact it doesn’t do anything crazy. Buttons and switches for everything, bluetooth for music, and a minimalist infotainment system that may as well only be there for the phone pairing process.

I might be in the minority, but I hate Apple CarPlay/Android Auto. I don’t want anything fancy, just music. I don’t want all the bells and whistles of my phone, just music.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And only automakers are surprised by this. This last time I bought a car, i avoided all the new ones and just got a reliable one from 2013. Fuuuuck all the tattletale noises, fuck all the touch screen interface bullshit, and fuck their ridiculous asking prices.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This article strokes my confirmation bias!

I love my 2010 Toyota with 140k miles, and I hope it runs forever. I could afford a new car if I wanted one, but all of the options have been getting worse for years! It’s just a car, but it’s a car from the perfect era of technology to be stuck with forever, and it drives beautifully.

I wish it got better gas mileage by 2024’s standards, for both financial and environmental impacts, but I believe it’s net better on both fronts for me to keep driving it than to replace it early. Fortunately it doesn’t snow where I live, so road salt won’t inevitably rust out the undercarriage.

There’s an aux in for the factory stereo, and I have a $25 BLE audio adapter with a ground loop isolator so there’s no alternator whine despite it being powered by the car. It’s not the most quiet for speakerphone calls, but it’s perfectly functional, and I’ve easily replaced it multiple times. It’s so much better than having a bad native Bluetooth audio system from that era.

I have a really solid dashboard mount for my magnetic phone mount, comprised of pieces from three different companies for maximal awesomeness. Then there’s my USB C PD supply that meets the charging standards of the present day relatively inexpensively and upgradably to any brand, powered by the “cigarette lighter” power socket. The existence of this simple medium wattage automotive DC power port is the greatest legacy left to us by the tobacco smokers of yesteryear. Is it gone yet in the latest cars?

A really slick trick I learned somewhere (maybe on reddit during the good years) is to use tiny zip ties on a cable that must run across your dashboard, such as the one to my mag charger. Put them at very strategic locations on the cable and facing the right way, and snip off the zip tie ends while still leaving a tail maybe about 1/4”, then jam that tail in between two pieces of dashboard trim. Do that repeatedly and the cable will go neatly and orderly around all your buttons and knobs without ever getting in the way.

An aftermarket dashcam is one thing that felt very worthwhile but was actually a decent amount of work to install, since I pulled a bunch of trim and ran wires through the headliner for that clean look with a rear facing camera mounted on the outside of the back. But I think those aren’t quite yet standard other than in Teslas.

2010 was the pinnacle of car technology, change my mind!

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

All I want is a regular car with an electric engine. Why is that so hard?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I had a 2015 Maxima and I used to get mail from the dealership asking if I wanted to take the car into the shop to get an $150 map update. Fuck off with that bullshit.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Well that's ok, it was never for them.

/s

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

"Oh... well we actually didn't FUCKING ASK YOU!"

-Automakers

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A backup camera and an Android Auto/Apple CarPlay head unit radio that sounds decent. That's all I want in a car for "tech" that isn't a safety feature. Everything else can go.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (5 children)

My car saved my ass from a road raging drunk, but android auto cannot skip songs from the steering wheel, quite a duality.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Android auto is great, but it's also a horrible cluster fuck because it's up to the automakers to integrate it into their system. Sort of just like Android phones from Samsung and other third-party companies.

The automakers usually fuck it up. It works fairly great on my 2015 Mazda 3 except for if I plug my phone in while the car is in reverse or some other odd times, the head unit just gets stuck on a black screen until I restart the car. Also, the touch screen doesn't work for Android auto which is a bummer.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

i really need a car without this all shit. I just want to drive from point A to B. I don't need any navi, big LCD screen, AC, parking automatic, speed control and all the electronic shit that I have now in my car.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm planning on having a "headless head unit" built for my next car so I can basically live off an AUX port wired to speakers throughout the car, I hate wireless that much.

[–] wheeldawg 9 points 3 months ago

I totally get it. I wish some of it was modular. My screen is too big 90% of the time. I love it for a clear view of the backup camera. It's nice for a clear view of the map if I'm out of town. Much better than trying to fumble with that on as phone like I did before.

But I don't have to do that often. It's not really in the way or anything but sometimes I just don't wanna see pixels. I can adjust it, but it's too much of a pain to mess with.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

well obviously My aunt has a modern car that reads the signs for you. Where I live there is a highway in the middle and normal road on the outer side. That piece of crap slows down to 70 km/h from 130 when it sees the sign that belongs to the other road…

However, not all tech is terrible. For example, parking cameras, gps, cruise control are useful

Edit: I think the current toyota land cruiser 70 series sold in australia is at the sweet spor of technology

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I daily a 1996 Jeep Cherokee. Manual transmission, manual windows, manual door locks. The basic radio was broken before I got it. It does have computer engine control with OBD2, but even that is simple in comparison.

When something breaks or maintenance is needed, it's a straightforward fix with typical tools. I've come to appreciate the simplicity.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't have a car but if I rent one the only "advanced" feature I want is: Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

I like having Siri in my car when she works. Like when my phone properly wirelessly connects. But when it doesn’t, I hate it, and would be better without it.

Also why the hell can’t CarPlay use the radio, when the car has a radio. Why can’t those two things talk to each other. Fucking dumb.

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