It's inevitable and won't be stopped. See Cory Doctorow's article on the future (and current state of) TikTok, Amazon, Facebook, etc. Reddit is the same. Reddit as we knew it is gone: move on.
this post was submitted on 06 Jun 2023
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And to realize that it's an endless loop if users keep jumping one platform after another, better to break free of that cycle by going open-source/federated network.
Yeah, people need to realize that maintaining a good social media platform just isn't profitable without enshittifying it with ads or paywalling key features.
Yeah, lemmy seems much nicer than reddit at this point.
Wow. That was quite the read. Thank you very much for sharing that, it definitely clears up a few things that I had sort of intuited, but not really articulated in my own head.
Good for including Steam in that list. The amount of die hard Steam fanatics is crazy and sad.
I'm glad to come across this article again - I first encountered it a couple of weeks ago on Hacker News due to some thread about Twitter drama and "enshittification" is now my favourite word.
I've crossposted this video into the community I've created about the downfall of Reddit. I'll mention here a few highlights from watching it:
Rossmann exposed the blatant difference between the API access prices in Imgur and the ones demanded now by Reddit. I think that this is an amazing point to expose, because it shows that Reddit is lying when it says that it is not trying to kill third party apps.
Rossmann also mentions the impact of this over the blind people. For all intents and purposes, if you're blind then Reddit doesn't want you in their platform.
A rather nice excerpt from the video:
The community will remember what you did, and screwing over vast swaths of disabled people is a really, really great way to look like the type of piece of shit that nobody wants to give money or revenue to, ever again.
In a world where reddit was telling the truth about not attempting to kill 3rd party apps, I could see them charging up to 3x what they expect to make off of their first party app people. So, in this case, 36 cents per user vs the 12 they could make off of redditApp user.
Let's hope they walk this back.
Why 3x? I'm curious on the number. In an admitted naive way, I'd expect them to demand from the third party app exactly the same as they'd get through the official one.
Letβs hope they walk this back.
I don't hope so. That wasn't the first case of Reddit being user-hostile; it has been doing this for a long time already. I think that it's actually better in the long run if they keep the decision, Reddit undergoes brain drain, and people move out of the site.
Why 3x?
I feel like that's as much as they can ask for without being seen as genuinely greedy. Other than that I didn't put a lot of thought into the number.
That wasnβt the first case of Reddit being user-hostile
Believe me, I know. I have a redirector to force old reddit.....and now I force it to redirect to a libreddit instance.
old.reddit is next to go.
Then I will definitely go. Their new version is as bad as what digg is now. I could never use that.
New reddit is unusable, in the time it loads notifications i would have already read all of them in old reddit
Dear lord, I hope not. At least not without some people getting really active and archiving huge portions of reddit with archive.org
they already killed the old-style compact reddit mobile site in favour of the new reddit crap, I'm honestly shocked every time I open reddit on desktop and still get old reddit
yeah, it hurts to think about but the writing is on the wallβ¦
Look at the URL you posted: you used the official Reddit app to read that website, and they injected all the UTM tracking parameters to know that it was firstly shared from your app using the share button.
Number One reason to boycott their app (but tbh it's a bit amateur hour, with the resources they have they can do like Amazon and share a shortened URL with much more tracking tokens)
Just to clarify, those links at the bottom are from the description of the youtube video and OP didn't post em. For some reason that's what happens when you post youtube videos on lemmy (maybe adding your own descriptions stops this from happening? EDIT: yes it does)
ah it looked like it was posted by OP
That's why I am here! We will see how this plays out. I never used Twitter so I don't know how it was affected in terms of its user base when it pulled the same thing, but even then it put mastodon's name out into the zeitgeist.
Had no idea Mr. Rossman had an Odysee channel, watched him on YouTube quite a bit. I'm glad he's doing a video on the Reddit debacle, and properly calling the official app crap.
Digg-ing their grave... Good one
I feel like reddit id only alive cz its promoted so well and doesnβt it come already installed on some phones?
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