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[–] [email protected] 166 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Not gonna lie, that headline had me on the first half. I was getting mad up until the last three words.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Same. I started thinking “why, that stupid shit-for-brains…” and had to reel that in with the last few words.

::confused slow clap::

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My instinctive hostility towards anything he does or says

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When it came to the Ukraine situation, he has, in general, not missed a beat.

The UK has given an impressive amount of gear to the Ukrainians given the size of the UK military, whilst everyone else was dithering and wondering what to give and how much to ensure they still had some stuff at home, the UK attitude was "give them all the things and we'll worry about it later".

Obviously countries like Poland had to be more cautious.

A lot of training and intelligence has been given to Ukraine as well. The UK continues to host Ukrainian troops for training.

The UK even made binding "boots on the ground" support agreements to Norway and Sweden in case Russia tried anything during their NATO membership process.

UK gave a bunch of Challenger 2 tanks with "do what you like with them" terms, not just "pwease don't shooty shoot on Wussian tewwitory" nonsense. This was a token gesture as actually Ukraine really wanted the German stuff but it opened the door a bit to basically embarrass Germany into getting it's act together.

As much as I don't like the man, Johnson did well when it came to supporting Ukraine, and credit should be given where it is due.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, I think we can all be thankful that all of the major British political parties were united on the need to support Ukraine. As my Ukrainian friends will always point out - Don't think of it as Europe "helping" Ukraine - instead think of it as Ukraine taking the brunt of Russian aggression to save Europe.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And it's so easily fixable too. "Boris Johnson calls to lift ban on Ukraine using"... etc. or just move "to be lifted" immediately after "ban".

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

But then it wouldn't be click bait.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

It a definite instance where keeping the preposition in ("the ban on") would have been clearer.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, it's a rollercoaster.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 90 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (16 children)

These limitations on Ukraine really need to be lifted. Ukraine needs freedom to attack the best strategic targets they can, whether they are in Ukraine occupied areas or in Russia. Since Russia annexed the occupied territories, there's not a big difference anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I’m not a fan of the guy but he had to say something sensible eventually.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago

Broken clock..

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I feel like he changed his mind when he saw how upset i was while reading through the first half

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

Right? I had to unsigh hard to regain equilibrium.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What a horribly written title

[–] Huckledebuck 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

... to be lifted.

It was written by M. Night Shyamalan.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

Dickhead, dickhead, dickhead, no wait, legend!

[–] gravitas_deficiency 24 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I will admit that I am confounded by how often I agree with Boris Johnson’s views on providing military aid to Ukraine, considering I almost always vehemently disagree with him on pretty much anything and everything else.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

Advocating a strong response to Russia lets him act out his Churchill fantasy, so he has a motivation to be less of a shitebag for a moment

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah he's one of the very few Western politicians who is taking the threat Russia poses to European security seriously. I found it unexpected tbh considering all of his other views.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Well foreign policy and domestic policy are two completely different things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Even a broken watch is right twice a day

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

Those last three words of the headline are doing some heavy lifting here

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Bo Jove, I think he’s got it!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

I was enjoying not hearing from this buffoon way too much, just like I will enjoy not hearing about Trump one day.

So I'll just go:' oh no anyway' on this one and hope the next but about him is further in the future.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Somebody is not getting their regular ~~bribes~~ payments anymore

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

If David Cameron can come back and be relevant again, I guess any sufficiently aristo Brit can.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Ya boy looks like he half way to becoming a sith lord. Somebody get this man an espresso.

[–] mindbleach 1 points 3 weeks ago

Y'know a professional writer would've put the word "lift" somewhere besides the end of the sentence.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Doesn't Storm Shadow require Western operators to program targets? I want Ukraine to win this war of national survival (unlike the US administration) but Western operators programming missiles to hit targets in Russia does sound escalatory to me. I'd rather see Ukraine receive a decent number of F16s (i.e. much more than currently pledged) with corresponding munitions. There's a lot of really useful stuff in the Western arsenal that would otherwise remain unused forever, including older-gen glide bombs & standoff weapons. It's not going to be the Wunderwaffen winning this war, anyway. But an ample supply of decent weapons could work wonders. Just look at the success of Russia's cheap glide bomb upgrades. (Sorry for the wall of text, by the way, but I can't get Connect for Android to retain line breaks)

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