Antiwork
A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.
The new place for c/[email protected]
This server is no longer working, and we had to move.
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Date Created: June 21, 2023
Library copied from reddit:
The Anti-Work Library 📚
Essential Reads
Start here! These are probably the most talked-about essays on the topic.
- The Abolition of Work by Bob Black (1985) | listen
- On the Phenomenon of Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber (2013) | listen
- In Praise of Idleness by Bertrand Russell (1932) | listen
c/Antiwork Rules
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1. Server Main Rules
The main rules of the server will be enforced stringently. https://lemmy.world/
2. No spam or reposts + limit off topic comments
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Off topic comments that do not pertain to the post at hand may be removed if it is deemed they contribute nothing and/or foster hostility at users. This mostly applies to political and religious debate, but can be applied to other things at the mod’s discretion.
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what your talking about is Star Trek. if you find a way there please let me know I will be right behind you
what I'm talking about is mutual aid networks, and so how I interact among my friends and polycule and such. We produce more than we could ever possibly consume, so much has to be thrown away just to force us to keep working.
This is a video on that second bit I like here: https://youtu.be/ESp5IgjR6r0
This is within our grasp today.
Mutual air networks is just another way to say community networks, which itself is just a label for how small communities with limited means act organically.
The small (often rural but not always) communities I have lived in know that help isn't coming and that individuals cannot survive on their own. Hence pot luck dinners, beer "fix'em" crews, church fundraisers for someone in need, cajun navy, etc.
i hope it is but if it's got any kind of momentum it would be stamped out by the elite by force if necessary. It's happened before when churches started moving in that direction just look up the National Association of Manufacturers and James William Fifield Jr at the turn of the last century to see what I mean.
I love mutual aid. I’ve started organizations, and participated in others, including orgs that have faced extreme repression in the past, and/or have other chapters currently experiencing repression.
But one of the orgs, which has faced significant repression in the past (before my time), is still going strong. Not at the level it would have been if there had been no repression, but still strong.
However, these mutual aid organizations do accomplish what they set out to do, whether it is feeding their communities, keeping them warm or cool, providing hygenic supplies, harm reduction, and so on. Sure, if they had more resources, they’d accomplish more, but it’s surprising what can be done with what can be taken solely from donation, or surplus produce that will go bad if not used immediately.
I think saying “look what happened last time” in the sense that you should not do something because reactionaries reacted in a specific way is stupid, since you can learn from what went wrong, and build more resilient movements.
Mutual aid probably won’t overthrow capitalism (alone), but it is critical for providing the ability to build a better world under capitalism, and after it. And the solidarity fostered by participating in these movements? Priceless.
they have tried to stamp us out for generations. Attacking us consumes resources on their end too, and unlike us they need to maintain an arbitrary level of resources (profit) or they collapse. We just need to build enough mutual aid and protect it well enough to win.
Well the path they took in Star Trek to get there isn't... exactly a pleasant path.....
Bell Riots coming next month.
Finally, a normal intelligent person. I almost thought they didn’t exist.
Big exaggeration but oh does it feel good to see someone else type exactly what i have been thinking and saying for years.
it took me years to find others who felt the same way, have you had luck with that? I ask because you seem like you are not used to it
Every time i attempt to explain myself people seem to think that i am boasting that i am better then them or something.
I can only assume they are projecting something on me, i just wanted better for everyone unconditionally without personal benefit other then living in a less fucked up world. Isnt that normal-selfish enough while still clearly in their benefits also? Apparently thats very hard for some to grasp.
Have you looked into anarchist communities? What I typed here was like, just a basic summery of stuff that is completely uncontested there I thought would make for an easy spam post in other places to find other anarchists lol
I got a discord server linked in my bio if you would like to meet a group of people who all believe in this stuff, and I can help you find others if you want.
I am subscribed to a few anarchist places but most seem rather barren.
Lemmy had been the best fit i found online in general. But even here i find i am still often more radical the average.
It would definitely be interesting to know more People to debate these topics with. I am talking a look at that discord server.
Edit: cant find your bio, may you send me an Invite?
well, this will be a space you are likely to be far less radical than average in I can say that, and I checking out these sites for the first time and these forums have not impressed me. The more public anarchist spaces tend to not have much going on because so much energy goes towards dealing with trolls and such, so they can't build mutual aid and such internally
I cant find you bio. Could you pm me an invite? Thanks.
Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism.
If you want this you should've just been born rich. Pretty shortsighted of you to be born without money.
At the end of the day, people are going to want shit like phones or cars or supplies for their hobby or whatever. How do you propose we divvy out those limited resources without assigning some kind of value to them?
community fridges are a good example of this working. I don't need to propose anything
Yeah that’s really gonna help me stock up on, say, acrylic paint for my miniature painting hobby.
community paint & brushes for your bourgeois hobby
Bourgeois hobby fucking lol
Give you the means to live, prosper, and grow, and the tools and resources to let you help others do the same? I can get on board with that.
Your "wants" sounds nice, but let us not forget people work and get paid because someone else need it. Wages/salary what have you, is the abstract representation of how much you've helped someone/some company. So in my opinion, wages are one of the emergent mechanics born out of necessity to value someone's help.
A post scarcity society like in star trek and the Orville could enable your vision. But for now, its all in fiction.
Every time antiwork comes into my "all" feed I feel like I get a little dumber.