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[–] [email protected] 99 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cool, but did anyone listen to that rambling shitpile of lies?

Sweet lord Almighty. He is scared out of his mind.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cool, but did anyone listen to that rambling shitpile of lies?

Considering the subject, you're going to have to be more specific.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Dude it was EVERYTHING lmao.

Crowd size

2020 election

Biden dropping out

The size of the room they were in

That there was a peaceful transfer of power in 2020

His leads in every state

It was wild that his campaign allowed this to happen.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Former President Donald Trump says he has agreed to an offer from ABC News to debate Vice President Kamala Harris on Sept. 10.

ABC News

Is ABC News not in a position to confirm or deny this claim?

Also, no mention of the terms or format?

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Hopefully they mute his mic when he tries talking over everyone.

In addition, I hope Kamala constantly calls him out for not actually answering any questions.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"Everything he just said was bullshit, and we are all dumber for having heard it."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

"I award you no votes, and may Uncle Sam have mercy on your soul."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They're on Fox a week earlier, so they'll end up muting Harris when she fact checks him.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

It's my understanding she has only agreed to the ABC debate on the 10th.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Harris isn't accepting the Fox invitation, because it's a stunt to get Trump out of debating at all unless it's rigged for him.

If she did accept the invite, I can't stress enough how stupid an idea that is.

If she accepts the Fox debate, they will manipulate the event to make her look bad and Trump good. It won't be a real debate, and the hacks at Fox will ensure that it's just a thinly veiled campaign event for Trump.

After declaring himself the victor, he'll drop out of any other debates as "unnecessary" since he already "beat" Kamala.

If she doesn't take the bait, she gets to call Trump a coward for refusing to debate at all, and he has no advantage and no excuse.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And then later he'll back out

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He's lied and said Harris agreed to a debate on Fox first. So when she "backs out" of that, it will be his excuse for backing out of ABC.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

The Harris/Walz campaign very swiftly made several public statements the FOX debate will not be happening.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

But that doesn't matter. He needs the debate more than she does. There's never going to be a debate on Fox News because they aren't unbiased.

Democrats have most likely learned their lesson. Unless you're a rhetorical genius like John Stewart or Bernie Sanders, Fox News is a death trap.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

ABC offered him a happy meal from McDonald's with two toys in it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Oh shit, was it one of those collectible beanie baby ones?!

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is exciting, and I'm hopeful that this will accelerate her momentum. But I don't think we can count Trump out yet. If nothing else, he's usually good at playing to his base.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Harris has a lot of pressure on her. People are basically expecting a total domination from her, so anything less than that could derail her momentum very fast. And Trump might be terrible at classic debating, but he is actually very adept at bulldozing others by ignoring speaking in turns, deploying a fire hose of lies and misinformation and loudly talking over others.

Let's hope for good moderation.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Remember that Harris is an experienced prosecutor. Her literal job has been dealing with liars, cheats, and various scummy and desperate lawyers for years. If anyone can shut down the Trump oral vomit, it's going to be her.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

She is, but Trump is special. I don't know that any previous experience will necessarily apply. In the courtroom she would have always been empowered by speaking from a position of authority - Trump will show her no such decorum.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's on the moderation, and I can't say I've seen good moderation for the big debates in a long time. They should bring in a grade school teacher who does regular debate classes and let them do what they know how to do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I guess I left that part unsaid, but yes. With good moderation Trump wouldn't be able to run his schtick - but here we are. We have to play the hand we're dealt.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I hear Katie Porter needs a gig and she would be a fearsome moderator.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Trump is special because other people give him decorum. She's not likely to. She's playing to win.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

Deal maker Donnie really doing deals here. Looks like he's basically caved.

Watch MAGA base desperately ignore another obvious example yet again if his tough words and weak actions not lining up.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Drug test before and after please

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Also make sure he hasn't kiestered a weapon. Some brave lad go in and make sure.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

I pray they didn't offer to remove the mute button.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I can't find anything about the debate rules, etc. Anyone know if its the same structure as the last debate?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

This will be epic. I can't wait.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

He says lots of things, wouldn't be surprised if he backs out cause he won't agree to terms

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Now that is going to be interesting. Time to stock up on popcorn. Sadly, your debate is going to be in our middle of the night, so I'll have to find it on YT later.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

He's going to spew so may lies, it'll be exhausting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

She should back out, just to fuck with him. Who gives a shit, I don't need to see her debate him.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

I literally cannot watch trump in a debate. He's so unintelligible and disrespectful, interrupting and name calling and raising his voice, etc. any debate he participates in just turns into a children's yelling match.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

She should school him on every question, every answer, every lie, and every insult/quip, and make America see him for the dishonest incompetent and spiteful person that he is. Just to fuck with him.

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