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[–] [email protected] 227 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He’ll do a debate if it’s in his safe space. Snowflake.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think this is bad news tbh. Harris can be as capable as she wants, but if the broadcaster doesnt stop Trump from a endless ramble or cut off his mic if he escalates to intolerable levels of behaviour, then this could end badly.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Don't give Fox News respect. Start talking shit about it right now. Call this what it is, a scared old weird man who will only debate Harris on a "news" network currently paying billions for lying to everyone about the last election. Harris will treat Trump and the "journalists" playing moderators like children which is how we should've been treating them for years. Talking to them like adults validates their lies and bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Harris should call them out. “I said a debate on a news source, not some weird entertainment channel. Might as well have the weather channel moderate the debate!”

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Underhanded. I like it.

[–] [email protected] 136 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is a weird way to say “Trump backs out of debating Harris on ABC”.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

NYT are fools for using that headline. Their journalists, or editor, obscured the facts with that one. "Updated" headline (not joking):

Trump Cancels a Debate With Harris on ABC News and Pitches One With Fox News Instead

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Haha I see that new headline. ‘tegrity.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

The biggest issue is many people will have only seen the first headline and not the update. They got inaccurate information and it won't be corrected, and the NYT is to blame.

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In what sense has he agreed something if no one else involved knows about it? I think the right verb here is 'suggests'.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

He made a post saying that's the "deal". In a way it's a ~~brave~~ brazen way to try and get a venue change. Harris would have to basically insult Fox News and their entire viewership to avoid looking like she's walking away.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

Which (insulting fox and their viewers) she should do regardless, tbh

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

According to Mr. Trump’s post on his social media site, the debate is to take place at a to-be-determined location in Pennsylvania, the must-win battleground state that could help decide the election. Fox News anchors Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum would moderate.

It was unclear early Saturday if Ms. Harris had agreed to the debate and its terms. Representatives for her campaign did not respond to requests for comment. A spokeswoman for Fox News also did not respond to questions.

I think it's worth waiting to see if Harris has actually agreed to this, in the extremely unlikely chance that Trump lied about a thing.

Also, pretty funny that even if that's the case, Trump still needs a month to prepare and it has to be in his safe space network.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

he is only 'agreeing' with the voice inside his head bouncing between the three brain cells. trying to play games and force harris into it.

i highly doubt harris would agree to those terms. nfw.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The Harris campaign on Saturday declined to commit to the Fox News debate and said it was still planning on a Sept. 10 debate hosted by ABC.

“Donald Trump is running scared and trying to back out of the debate he already agreed to and running straight to Fox News to bail him out. He needs to stop playing games and show up to the debate he already committed to on Sept. 10,”

I think that's pretty clear.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Would be funny to have it at the same place he got shot at last time.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 month ago

only if harris somehow sneaks a bullhorn/megaphone onto the stage so she can still make sure those fuckers hear her when her mic "malfunctions".

fox deserves no respect.

You know how fascists are always projecting; the way he treats normal news agencies tells us all we need to know - it's exactly how we SHOULD be treating his pet agencies.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Fox Moderator: "Vice President Harris, how would you respond to the accusation that your administration was responsible for the supply-chain crisis, grocery price inflation, massive corporate layoffs, Texas power outages, the summer heat wave, and the border apocalypse?"

Harris: "What? Now wait..."

Fox Moderator: "President Trump. They say you have the best golf record of any president in history. How did you accomplish this historic feat?"

...

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This was the obvious move - attempt to change the venue to Fox, Newsmax or worse. I'm surprised Tucker isn't a proposed moderator.

Harris should counter with a live fact check requirement regardless of venue, which Trump and Fox could never accept.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Even with a live fact check requirement, would you trust Fox News to fact check? They'd probably use "alternative facts".

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Her statement should make clear that she is only interested in debates hosted by news networks, citing Fox News' own lawyers who say that they aren't journalists, but rather "entertainers".

Maybe also make a point of refusing to work with an organization that was found liable for defaming voting machine manufacturers and poll workers during the last election.

There are endless valid reasons for saying no to this debate, and holding Trump to the original debate schedule he already agreed to.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Trump agrees with himself"

...say, is it perhaps weird to make meetings with yourself?

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Trump: "I am chickening out of the debate with Harris, and trying to force it onto a right-wing propaganda network that won't let me lose."

New York Times: "Trump has accepted the invitation to debate Harris."

No he didn't, you fucking hacks. How the fuck does one accept their own invitation? He wasn't invited to shit, he burned his invitation and is demanding Harris play a new game.

Fuck Trump for being a cowardly weasel, and fuck the New York Times for this bullshit narrative.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago (14 children)

Yes, the network that had to pay nearly a billion dollars for pushing a false narrative in order to get Trump elected the last time around is the perfect venue. Oh, and a live Fox News audience? What could be bad about that?

What a joke.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

She didn't though. This is blatant misinformation.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Delete this post for using the word Agrees in the title.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago

Headline so insanely misleading they had to change it lol. NYTimes is such a joke these days

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I cannot stand his voice; I always end up muting the TV and reading the closed captioning. Those poor people that have to do the live captioning though..

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Imagine having to stand on that stage and smell that soiled old man. If he stank I would bring that up before answering every question

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

When Trump was in office foreign translators got a ton of shit for doing thier job. So many non English speaking people thought the translators were drunk. That made more sense at the time than The President of the United States of America actually saying the things he said. There was also the time he got laughed at by the entire United Nations.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump when Biden is running: "Any time, any place"

Trump when Harris is running: "One specific time, one specific place"

Harris is going to wipe the floor with this guy.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree to NYT giving me 85% of their revenue forever. I agree to that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

gonna look real bad on the NYT if they don't follow through!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fucking hell I'm actually excited. If you had asked me literally a month ago I wouldn't have given a shit and would have laughed if you had told me I'd be interested. Don't get me wrong I was going to vote either way, but man I cannot wait for Harris to slam the shit out of this dirt bag and make a national embarrassment of him. The shit that worked with Biden sure as hell isn't going to fly with Harris.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

I agree to Trump withdrawing from the election.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It’s definitely a risk for Harris but it’s the only place anyone watching only Fox will see her debate Trump. Not that it’ll change their minds of course, they’re so heavily brainwashed it’s insane.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why it should never happen. Trump could go there, shit his pants, and call Harris all the words, and all republicans will lap it up like the mewling little weird cowards they are.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Buttigieg has been appearing on Fox News recently and he's been doing a good job dismissing their dishonest narratives and avoiding their traps.

https://youtu.be/SXGpXWbVYSg?si=xBtDe8jWbMdXvmUF

But this isn't Buttigieg, and this isn't a one-on-one interview, so we can only hope if she agrees to this for some reason that she's as prepared as he is.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

OP, you should edit the post to reflect the headline change.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

I agree to receive $150,000 from the Trump campaign.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

I don't see why she should accept to be on fox.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Can't spell slaughter without laughter

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The title is the original title that NYT published. They updated it after backlash (rightfully so). Please don't report this post again.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

I sincerely hope Harris never meets to debate Trump at Fox. Fox will just ambush Harris and edit the footage to make Harris look dumb or insincere. The whole exercise will be pointless because Americans will not get a fair representation of both candidates.

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