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[–] [email protected] 145 points 1 month ago (2 children)

One of them is a tool, another one is driven by a tool.

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[–] [email protected] 121 points 1 month ago (6 children)

The worst part with all these big trucks is the bed is significantly higher requiring much more effort to actually put anything in.

You're not only looking like a dumbass you actually are one.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Honestly this. I had one of these that replaced my old Dodge van at work, and I hated it because all my equipment was much more of a pain in the ass to get in and out.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 month ago (9 children)

The comparison is kinda unfair. The big truck has a wider bed, bigger tires and more power. It also seats more people. So it is able to get more load through more difficult terrain. However we can be quite sure it won't be used in that way.

[–] Grass 69 points 1 month ago (9 children)

I've never seen one with wear and tear and/or dirt that would indicate difficult terrain. Those only leave the city in advertisements.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's a few in the country around here. The ones with dirt on them are almost exclusively the Toyota Hilux, though

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

it won’t be used in that way.

However, there is (or was) an additional product for faking off-road activity: Spray-on mud for giving a justification to need such a car.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My brother in law has a truck like the one on the right. That backseat area is huge. You could stop and have a picnic back there during a road trip.

I can't imagine owing it. It looks dumb to me and it's far too big for normal use. But he's a cross country hauler, so it's not a big truck to him.

And they have three kids, so I doubt he gives af about pp showmanship.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago (55 children)

The one on the left is used by people who need to carry things. The one of the right is used by losers.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Left one carries stuff, right one carries fragile egoes

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A tax on vehicle axle weight proportional to the damage done to roads (which goes up exponentially with weight).

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Vehicle fee based on some combination of size, weight, and miles driven would be the fairest.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Miles driven is just taken care of in fuel taxes. Sales tax on size, yearly tax based on weightwould be perfect I think.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Happens many places in Europe already.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's a real man's truck. Air conditioned, soft suspension, big boi so scary big truck don't scare, brightest lights because corners scary, 4 seats cos wife is scary, big tyres because tools are scary, big tank because human interaction is scary.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The thought of someone getting a 4 seater truck purely because they are so terrified of their own wife that he only feels safe when she is in the back seat of a car

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The pp size is inversely proportional to the truck size.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (8 children)

that's why I ride a bike.

I could get away with a unicycle if it weren't for my MASSIVE SCHLONG requiring support and it's easier that way than getting two unis.

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[–] jubilationtcornpone 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

I drove pickup trucks for years. Most people probably don't realize is how much higher the operating cost is compared to smaller vehicles, even if they know that it's generally higher. The first hybrid I bought was a Prius about a decade ago and when I finally looked at the difference in the cost of fuel and maintenance, it was not insignificant.

There's plenty of legit reasons to need a pickup but outside of that, you're just throwing your money away. Nowadays our Sienna Hybrid minivan has a hitch receiver on it so I can hook the trailer up to it if I need to haul something big. I haven't needed a truck in a long time.

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[–] wheeldawg 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (24 children)

If you're worried about making the cab bigger and comfier, you don't need a truck.

There are no arguments to this and no one has a point against me here. If cab space is the concern, you need a minivan or SUV.

Blanket statement with impunity incoming. Combining these vehicles is a bad idea. For safety and efficiency. If you think this is a good idea in any possible way, you're simply incorrect.

You're just buying an SUV with a truck bed attached because your little balls say you want a "manly" vehicle.

You wouldn't put a hitch on a moped. Don't put a bed on a SUV.

Extending the length of a vehicle past the point where a hitch makes it longer than a parking space should be a "first offense your company is due down immediately" kind of offense first of all. The amount of these hitches blocking sidewalks and handicap accessibility spaces is absolutely bonkers.

Why don't we have a president type of office that doesn't mess with politics or international affairs, they just have nationwide power for common sense stuff like banning pickups simply being used as passenger vehicles, curbing attempts to overgrow parking spaces, and probably a bunch of other stuff too.

Also, I have a great idea for a whole new tax. :)

Let's make an industry out of dining these people to the point where only businesses use trucks. Regular people can rent them easily enough to move between apartments or what have you, but these should never have been general use daily drivers.

Let's just crush and compact the entire pickup truck industry to an incredibly tiny fraction of what it is now.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You wouldn’t put a hitch on a moped

My dude, I put a hitch on a scooter. My little trailer kicks ass. Well, it did before it was stolen, but that's besides the point.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Trailers are great! You can tow with minivans, cars, suvs and trucks. Trailers typically are easier to load, have more capacity and can be a lot longer than a truck bed.

Contractors get most of their building supplies delivered by flat bed trucks anyways.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (21 children)

You are definitely wrong, there is a market for it. It’s clearly not as big as it currently is, but there are absolutely people that families and work some sort of construction or farming job where a truck is necessary, and carrying more than 3 people comfortably is also necessary. And two vehicles is also not feasible.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

The bed on the left probably gets used more.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (10 children)

But the one on the left wouldn't pass US fuel economy standards, which are based on vehicle footprint since 2012.

That's the reason the Ranger etc were discontinued for a while, and when they returned were bigger than the old F-150s.

It's so the reason the small cargo vans (Nissan NV200, Ford Transit Connect, and Ram Promaster City) were all discontinued in the last 2 years. CAFE standards increase over time, and it's easier to just make bigger cars.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Its also in my opinion, a complete failure of the EPA and a disconnect from what it's true goals should be. The marketing trends show that bigger vehicles (which have more leneient standards and can guzzle more fuel) have been sold more and more since these standards, all to the benefit of oil companies selling gas to fill the bigger tanks and the benefit of auto makers enjoying higher price margins on bigger vehicles. Once again the hand of capitalism and the "free market" prioritizing profits over everything.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A lot of people who buy trucks these days just need something that can tow a travel trailer or a boat to their favorite camp site a few times a year. It's not that they need a truck on a day to day basis, but they might need the towing capability on occasion. That's why these trucks are a weird combination of luxury sedan (with their leather seats and high end interiors) and pickup truck. Most of the time they use it like a regular car, but sometimes they might need the towing capability.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (6 children)

If it’s a “few times a year” situation that really seems better suited to renting.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Pff my fckn subi can do that and fit in a standard car park

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

Functional design is the only proper design.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

One is a work tool and for men, the other one a toy and for little boys.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The one on the right is an “Emotional support vehicle”.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Kei trucks feel like they'd be a perfect alternative to a gator. They appear to be cheaper too even considering importation.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If it's an actual work truck, that backseat is filled with tools that you can't have out on the bed. I do doubt it's a work truck though.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Hence why most smart labourers and contractors use a cargo van. No pesky seats blocking access and taking up space. Lots of customizeable room in the back for storage and shelves. Tall vans you can even walk inside and use a workbench. Many vans also have a decent towing capacity. Bed height is typically lower on a van, making heavier items easier to load. A lot of the same items people typically fit in truck beds can fit in the back of the van with the added benefits of being out of sight of thieves, being protected from weather and dirt, possibly even being heated or cooled if required.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's not like the beds are the same size. Length sure, but don't you know that girth is what mattera for your dick replacements?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Easy: the one on the right is compensating for mini pp

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

But one of these is actually using their truck bed.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The only thing I can say in favor of the one on the right is carrying capacity (weight). I associate with equestrians, and hauling a horse (1000-1500 lbs each) in a trailer (4-13k lbs, depending) (I know the truck isn't holding it all, but it has to pull and stop it). The truck needs the engine power and torque to do that, while at the same time have enough weight and tire contact to stop with all that extra weight.

Working construction type things, and picking up builder materials? Hands down the one on the left. Hauling anything beyond the bed of the truck? Absolutely the one on the right.

[–] pumpkinseedoil 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)

In Europe we just haul trailers (even horse trailers) with normal cars, of course with a stronger engine for special uses like horses but even a VW Golf is allowed to pull up to 1800 kg (= can pull a bit more than that).

I bet most US-americans with a truck aren't even using their truck bed often - likely rarely enough for a normal car + trailer to be way more practical - and also much more efficient, but ig efficiency barely matters with your fuel prices. To stick with the VW Golf example: a modern VW Golf needs 4/4.5/5 l per 100 km (city/combined/highway), a ford F-150 needs 10.7/12.4/14.7 l per 100 km.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

If I had to buy a pickup truck I'd buy a Suzuki Carry and call it a day

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