Third panel: Sex offender running for president gets shot, and survives.
this post was submitted on 13 Jul 2024
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Am I crazy for not wanting anyone to get shot? I know how crazy our politics are getting, and I'm afraid of the future, but we shouldn't be wanting anyone to be shot at. Life is life, even if it's attached to the absolute worst person on Earth. Sure, lock up people who are a danger to society, but let's not celebrate gun violence.
Trump is responsible for locking people in cages and having them die in there. And after being notified he doubled down on it. And many other acts that have led to people's deaths.
Why are murderers above being murdered?
If you want to talk about justice you need to maintain superior standards and morals.
Your argument is no better than the "Saudi Arabia doesn't allow the building of churches, so why do we allow the building of mosques?" The answer is that we're better than fucking Saudi Arabia.
Eye for an eye types of justice quickly become escalated and end up in a race to the bottom.
Killing Nazis IS superior standards and morals. What, you gonna tell me liberating Auschwitz was wrong because the Allies used violence? You gonna say it makes them no better than the Nazis to solve problems with guns?
I don't think an assassination attempt on Trump is equal to ending fascism in WWII, although I understand why it is tempting to draw a comparison.
If you want to try normalising and rationalising assassination attempts on world leaders, then don't act surprised when someone comes for the one you support.
No matter how much you hate Trump, this act should absolutely be condemned.
I would be very happy if the democrats assassinated Trump and the Republicans killed Biden. Problem solved!
But if you mean "what if the CIA assassinated communist leaders", uhhhhhh they already do.
I think any endorsement of violence is absolutely terrible and wanting leaders shot is an extremly slippery slope.
That's not what I meant but it's also something that I don't endorse.
Tolerating intolerance is intolerant. If you allow there to be people in your government who assassinate communist leaders, lock babies in cages, and deny lifesaving healthcare to minorities, then that stuff is gonna happen. Problems with society member got solved with wishful thinking and fairy dust. They got solved with blood. The Nazis had to be shot. The crusaders had to be stabbed. The conquistadores ought to have got arrows in their throats. It's the same in fiction, too. Luke Skywalker didn't get rid of the Death Star by sitting down and talking with Darth Vader, he used a bomb. Frodo and Aragorn didn't defeat Sauron by voting, they used their swords. The Avengers didn't debate Thanos into leaving them alone, they cut off his head with a magic axe.
What on earth do you think we're supposed to do with Nazis except kill them?
I've already stated that equating killing Trump to ending fascism is a bit of a stretch. And you can tell me until you're blue in the face about how much you want Trump killed, I disagree, I think it sets a terrible precedent.
This is real life not a fantasy film.
Alright, thanks for dodging the question and regurgitating thought terminating cliches.
Yh we've both been repeating ourselves. I'm not going to change your mind, you're not going to change mine.
All I have left to say is that I hope that there isn't someone else out there who thinks it's OK to kill someone they hate and who then decides that they hate people like you.
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Because we don't have to be all "law of the wild." Murderers deserve imprisonment, not death and endangerment.
Wanting to shoot Nazis is patriotic
You need to be careful that you don't become what you hate. There are always going to be people that you disagree with on the strongest levels.
Yeah, I know. Killing fascists is a full time job.
How many have you killed? Zero? Shut the fuck up then.
These people are the leftist equivalent of the special forces spaghetti. It's fucking weird how little self awareness they have.
If what they disagree about is whether gay people deserve to exist, fuck them with a rake.
If I believed everything people think Trump would do if elected, how could you ethically not want to do it yourself?
Put every marginalized person on one track and trump on the other. Do you pull the lever?
Then I ask you: if this is how you rationalize the violence, what prevents you from doing the same?
In a different vein of thought, does this same argument justify those on the far right who are frightened (logically or illogically) of the left threatening violence on their perceived opponents?
Then I ask you: if this is how you rationalize the violence, what prevents you from doing the same?
Faith in humanity? Optimism? If the gas trucks roll out I won't last long, but I'm not convinced terror is inevitable if Trump wins.
In a different vein of thought, does this same argument justify those on the far right who are frightened (logically or illogically) of the left threatening violence on their perceived opponents?
Most of the right's concerns are amorphous nuttery. The left's concerns are very concrete and frightening. They also have evidence (such as 2025) to back them up.
If they're honest about their concerns, I really don't know what to think about doing nothing about it. What are you willing to sacrifice to prevent a holocaust? At the very least we should all be quietly arming ourselves. Prefer private transactions.
My belief in robust self defense matches that of most self defense laws, and I'd wait until they're killin' to support armed resistance.
If anything, everybody should really, really, really start doing workouts at home and try to get some cardio in, too
The supreme court has kinda set things up so that he won't face prison, though.
Presidents being shot is not unprecedented.
Right. Endorsements of violence are not Ok just because you hate an individual.
And to anyone endorsing what happened, I certainly hope that a group of violent people or a violent individual never decide that they hate you.
Shot AT- if it’s even true. He’s not a victim.
Being shot at still makes one a victim of a shooting. Unless you wanna clarify that to all the kids at Sandy Hook, Uvalse, and the myriad others in this country.
Meanwhile, if the shooter had better aim, we'd have a better country.
nah, trump isn't what make your country that shit hole, it's your's "democracy" that create them, killing trump would only made him martyr
Being shot at does make one a shooting victim, even if the rounds missed.
You're missing a key point. Victim implies they suffered, where in trumps own words he should just get over it.
Now is not the time to be talking about gun control. Think of the family.
Hey, gun control is a very serious issue.
I suspect the shooter picked an incorrect weapon and this negatively affected their ability to accurately place shots center of mass.
I don't think Alex Jones would agree with you.
good thing we're not asking one of the worst people ever what he thinks about our opinions, isn't it?
The bullet hit a teleprompter. He wasn’t shot. He was shot at. He’s not a shooting victim. He’s a teleprompter that got shot victim.
Maybe Katie Johnson said enough is enough
Sounds like it was glass from the teleprompter that got him (shooter shot the teleprompter?)
Edit: Turnip is now claiming a bullet hit him. Not sure which story is true
Turnip? Intentional or hilarious unintentional typo?
Intentional
Now they are saying his foot was on the line!
Between the story the AP tells and the story The Idiot tells, you're not sure which one is true?
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