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Long Island bill could mean jail time, $1,000 fines for face masks that hide identity (www.nbcnewyork.com)

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 month ago (5 children)

There are exemptions from the law, such as those wearing masks for health or religious reasons. But who gets to decide how to enforce that distinction? The legislature's top Republican insisted police will be able to identify the difference.

Ah, the old "I know it's a medical condition when I see it" policy that we've come to rely on police to assess.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The thing for someone like me who is immunocrompromised is. I need to wear a mask because I have a medical condition.

But also my immediate family and anyone interacting with me needs to wear a mask when in public. Covid is a death sentence for me. So this law doesn’t cover that.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's because, and I'm really sorry to say this, they don't give a shit whether you live or die. If you die, it's God's will, even if they're the cause.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

yep. half of these people dont even believe in covid. its crazy

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like it's one thing for people to not want to wear a mask. Fucking bonkers to make a law banning them. Are criminals gonna be like "shit guys, guess we can't crime any more"

Also, it's already a crime for people to steal shit and cause trouble. Even if they aren't wearing a mask, cops are unlikely to catch these people.

So glad she didn't get elected to higher office. She's as dumb as santos with a slightly less sketchy background. Looks like she's doing ehat she can to spread the dumb though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It’s not intended for productive effect. It’s a way to identify people who aren’t loyal to the orders of the tribe, and get violent with them.

As it does for a lot of other things, “On Tyranny” by Tim Snyder breaks this down very very well. He talks about the power of symbols, Nazi pins and yellow stars and the “Trump” flag and things like that, in the growth of fascist movements, and the important often overlooked role they play in starting to shape the fabric of day-to-day ordinary people’s lives in obedience to the leader, and engaging ordinary people in enforcing it.

The thing with banning masks isn’t about improving society in any way; as you point out, it’s pure nonsense looked at in that light. It’s about identifying the ones who won’t get in line.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I was talking to a coworker recently about past work experiences and how crazy COVID-19 was when it first came out. I was working at a hospital, not the normal medical kind but a state run psychiatric hospital. Still its a hospital that behaves in hospital ways, especially when it comes to communicable diseases.

So its November 2019 and word is that there is a nasty respiratory disease making its way in the medical news, everyone is a little nervous but we are in eastern Washington, in a small town. The world is very far away, until it isnt.

December comes and the first case of COVID one of my coworkers who had a history of health problems dies a couple weeks after catching COVID. His at home caretaker dies from COVID. His wife who also works at the hospital gets COVID but she tells us she didn't even really notice it.

That was just the beginning. After about 5 deaths of employees at the hospital they stopped telling us.

I will never forget one person. He called me on a Thursday and left a voicemail requesting I call him back because he hates to go through the help desk and likes a human touch and enjoys my conversations.

I called him back but he went home sick. I tried calling him the next week but he was still out. A week later I go to his desk to see if he is there and there are a bunch of his coworkers there. He passed away over the weekend, COVID won.

I have worked in the hospital/medical industry for over 20 years. 16+ of those were at the # 1 trauma center in Washington State.

I don't know how so many people can believe this was all just a hoax. I will forever have a great and deep seated hate for people expressing doubt about the deadliness of the disease.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s killed tens of millions. And it has disabled tens of millions more. It is absolutely wild how unseriously the right takes it. Horrendous.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait until global warming comes for us for real

Tens of millions? Those are rookie numbers. And it happened for exactly the same reasons, and the fuckers KNEW what they were doing. They just wanted to get rich, and didn’t care if it literally destroyed the world. And now the piper’s coming.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Global warming will be fucked.

But COVID infections still disable around 2% of people who contract it for life. Now let covid keep on running around for a couple decades and a very large chunk of the population is going to have major issues.

I’m bedridden since 4 years with a lifelong disease caused by a covid infection. And I only see our numbers growing. 2% per infection is the most conservative estimate. The NIH says 5%

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh I am not saying you are wrong. I still have some minor but significant effects from having had Covid a couple of years ago. I’m saying that global warming once it starts fucking up the food supply will kill on a scale that’s unimaginable to people who currently live in largely safe orderly war/famine free type countries.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I'm very sorry to hear that about your friend and experience. And thank you for your service!

But the answer is simple: it's a cult. They are brainwashed (and ironically think everyone else are the ones brainwashed). So it doesn't make sense and they just ignore that or have cognitive dissonance.

And unfortunately it's just very difficult to dismantle a cult. Just look at scientology/mormonism/jw/etc.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Black people don’t have respiratory issues, so every mask is an attempted murder. Better shoot on sight.

/s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The sad thing is that I would not even be a little surprised if they tried to claim something maybe only slightly less broadly than that non-sarcastically.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s just common sense science. The black was made as the worker, so naturally they would have more physical immunity.

/s /s /s /sssssssss

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

You have no idea how close you come to the truth of how many people unfortunately think, including many medical professionals: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/medical-myths-that-hurt-black-people

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There’s a longstanding thing in medicine that black people don’t feel as much pain as white people. It was never true, but for some reason it was believed for a long time.

Things like that are slowly changing, and dark-skin-color prosthetics and textbooks showing e.g. symptoms that present differently on dark skin as light skin, or testing drugs on women instead of only on men and assuming the women probably react like smaller men, etc etc. But a really surprising amount of it has survived even into the modern day.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

The pain sensitivity thing is the tip of the iceberg. Look at the shit they were saying about black people either being immune to or much less likely to contract COVID: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8530468/

Their fucking racism will get their own race killed just as much as the race they hate.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Oof and Nassau and Suffolk County PDs are terrible. Suffolk cops are the ones that burst into laughter when TFG addressed them and said (paraphrased) "Why do you care so much when putting someone in the back of your police car, protecting their head? Maybe next time don't worry about it."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Oh I have no doubt they'll pull masks off of anyone they feel like. They'll probably use this as an excuse to pull a transparent oxygen mask from a senior citizen because it "hides their identity."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah... My home county. Trump land, rich & very poor people, but aggressive assholes none the less absolutely everywhere. Home of the $500k burned down shack masquerading as a "starter home."

I need to leave so badly...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Does that mean as a Satanist, that the bodily autonomy tenet includes masking to avoid airborne illnesses, even if I am at a protest against the march of fascism?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

So are they saying covid masks are fine since it's for health reasons but face coverings are not fine? Also, do religious reasons only apply to women covering their faces? The Satanic Church allows me to do whatever I want.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

"I very much doubt anyone is go to stop a little old lady wearing a mask for health reasons," said Legislator Howard Kopel.

😬 little old WHITE lady.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

Well that's obviously bullshit