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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

He also played a clip from Biden’s interview with ABC News, when the president was asked how he would feel if Trump won the election.

"I’ll feel, as long as I gave it my all and I did the good as job as I know I can do, that’s what this is about,” Biden said in the interview last week.

Stewart raised his voice and pushed back on that comment.

"That’s not what this is about! There are no participation trophies in endgame democracy. Oh yeah, I remember FDR saying, ‘Well, if the Nazis take over Europe, at least both teams had fun,’” he added.

Full clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9LZXheHddI

[–] xmunk 36 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yup! That quote from Biden is absolutely fucking unacceptable. If you are unable to guarantee a success then get the fuck out of the way and lets find someone (not Harris) that can.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We may not like it, but Harris has a better chance of winning against Trump.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I, for one, like it. I think she would do a better job than Lemmy thinks she will. I would love to see her debate Trump.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Think you're right, she'd do well against him. I just don't like her. Some of her news bits had me thinking: Trump for Democrats

Her whole career has been Fighting Against the People. If she'd fight billionaires and corporations like she took down stoners, I might think differently about her.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

There’s no point in anyone debating someone who just blatantly lies continuously.

It was stupid of Biden to do it and it would be stupid of anyone, even Michelle Obama to bother letting him spout his bullshit like he did.

The only possible exception is someone like Gavin Newsom or AOC. Someone who could bring the zingers for his bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I listened to Newsom on Fox. I would pay high dollars to watch that debate. Or Katie Porter.

[–] xmunk 5 points 1 month ago

If she wins - good for her - if she loses, let it end her political career forever because she contributed to ending democracy.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Correction, Biden legit said “goodest job”, and if my soul was still functional I would have fell out of my chair when I heard it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I definitely hear "goodest" and had no idea what "godd as" was, but was just leaving quotes as is.

On Colbert's monologue he said that Biden's campaign insisted on the Times changing it to "good as" for some reason

[–] gravitas_deficiency 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is what I’ve been fuckin’ saying since the interview!! Jesus, it’s nice to finally hear a public figure precisely articulate a serious concern I have.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

It reminds me of political posturing on other issues, like everyone says they believe the climate scientists but they sure as fuck ain't acting like it.

Here too it really seems like those sounding the alarm aren't alarmists at all. Trump is a fascist. But everyone's still pretending like it's completely fine to lose to him.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Hmm, Jon Stewart has a lot of influence, like it or not. If he can get behind a movement to get Joe Biden to....

Stewart also noted he was not calling on Biden to step out of the race, but asked if Democrats could “open up” a larger conversation about their candidate.

Well, shit. We're stuck with Joe, aren't we?

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He's saying the bare minimum is an honest discussion and evaluation of Biden.

We're not even getting that, were getting "buckle up buckaroos"

And being gaslight about valid doubts about an 81 year who just set the record for oldest US president ever is fit to go back to back...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

but it's only 4 months away! this is who the people chose!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No they didn't. There were no primaries and no Democrat dared challenge Biden lest they face the party's wrath.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I didn't think there was ever a realistic chance of replacing him, honestly. We are indeed stuck with Joe.

But I appreciate that Stewart acknowledges these concerns rather than trying to gaslight us about it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone seriously is claiming Biden is without issue. Only that now is too late to call for replacing him.

They are basically the "blue no matter who" people. I'll probably be one this election too, considering the alternative.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not 'blue no matter who' I'm 'third parties mathematically cannot win the electoral college so I will vote strategically for whoever has an actual possibility of beating Trump, then down the ballot I am more free to vote with my conscience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are there any Republicans left who are not in the Trump cult?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Dick Cheney just called him out the other day. Dick frickin Cheney.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

But I appreciate that Stewart acknowledges these concerns rather than trying to gaslight us about it.

Has literally anyone ever said that Biden is awesome and will be amazing and there are no issues? Nobody is gaslighting anyone, we just don't want Trump to ruin the country in completely irreversible ways.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

We were stuck with him a year ago. Unless you can turn back time and install ranked choice voting before primaries.

Thinking otherwise is delulu.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (9 children)

So both candidates have hijacked their own parties, as they can literally destroy them if they are forced out.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In what way did Biden hijack the party? At best it's a Weekend at Bernie's type situation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A Weekend at Sanders' isn't going to fix Biden's optics problems. Does anyone know if he needs glasses?

/j I'm making jokes so that I'm not attempting assassinations at this point.

Edit: ummm.... Well this is awkward...

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You guys are not voting only for the president. It's everything that comes with that. Like the supreme Court and all other justices.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We won't have the Presidency or likely the House or Senate if we stick with Biden.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm voting for Biden if he's the one in the general, but I fear you may be right. Far too many normies have no idea what is at stake.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Stewart's episode is basically calling for a primary, which we already had, which was known for years ahead of time would happen, which literally anybody could run in, and yet nobody significant seemed interested in running. I voted in the primary, there was more than one person to vote for, Biden even lost his primary in American Samoa. To say there was "no primary" is a lie, and suggesting a party swap out a candidate who already won a primary, and by doing so throw out the votes of millions of Americans who participated in that primary process, is anti-democatic. Do you want people to switch parties and vote in the republican primary? Because that's how you do it. Did the DNC learn nothing from getting caught trying to crush Bernie's primary chances?

You lose voters you disenfranchise, period. I don't care how good the DNC's legislative aims are, if my primary vote literally does not matter, why would I ever vote in their primary again?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Jon Stewart would be a pretty good candidate. I mean, totally horrible as a president in objective terms, but would work as a pretty great counterpoint to Trump.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (12 children)

I don't know why you think he wouldn't be a good President. A presidents job is largely rhetorical and Stewart is good at that. He also showed his mettle in his support and advocacy for 9/11 first responders.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That berating he gave them was amazing. Also gave me my favorite pic of McConnell

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

This is one of my favorite pic's of all time and it also shows precisely how to navigate things like the house and senate from the outside.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jon nailed it. I don't know why the Biden team is insisting he stays.

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