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[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I recently learned that since pigeons lived on cliffs, they really only need a bit of sticks to keep their eggs in one place. Unlike a bird, which builds its nest in a tree.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nice, but is there a scientific explanation for its cute little smug bird face

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

How’d you know!? Oink, oink 🐽

[–] can 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Hey, we don't say that word here.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

Pigeons are the domestic name for rock doves. They nest pretty much anywhere there are cliffs that provide rocky areas away from predators. The ideal nest spot it somewhere tucked away enough they dont need to build much of a nest. Cities are just artificial cliffs to them that killed their predators and now provide endless food. So rock doves are doing very well and have spread across the globe way beyond their native range in the middle east and northern Africa. There are huge populations in north america in the wild that never see cities.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd like to know more about the differences between bird and pigeon.

[–] festnt 12 points 1 month ago

bird make nest and sing, pigeon put sticks on the ground and spy at people

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I recently learned that they are primarily domesticated, and we used them for all kinds of uses (including Squab) which all just fell away as we got more modern. They were totally dependent on us to a degree (like dogs), and we just kicked them to the curb.

The more you know!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Do you maybe have some tasty source material to share? Love to read more about that

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

unlike eagles which build condos that could be sold for $200k in California.

[–] Tar_alcaran 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So, you're saying it's stupid for failing to build a nest, it's stupid for failing to realize it's not on a cliff?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Nah, they never had a need to build big fancy nests when they were in their natural habitat. Now many of them live in cities where they nest on the sides of buildings, which are very cliff like. I don't think they're a very intelligent bird, but the nest building behavior is instinctual, so I wouldn't expect them to dynamically adjust their nest building.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Kind of like not realizing you're missing a "not".

[–] Tar_alcaran 12 points 1 month ago

Well, I evolved in an environment where there was no need for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

It's doing exactly enough - the egg isn't rolling away, from the pigeon's perspective... Job done. Why judge a pigeon's nest by the standards of a sparrow?

Personally I think it's pretty smart to not do more than is necessary.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Just evolved enough to stop Humpty Dumpty syndrome.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 month ago
[–] brbposting 43 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Some interesting background on why some birds build terrible nests: https://youtu.be/Xwx3xndcnPY

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

that's a summoning circle and i respect it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Evolution is a fickle mistress. Time does not always garner intelligence. Or as pigeon would say, "coo".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

That's a pigeon which are descendants of rock doves, which don't build nests either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago