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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh good, now we just have to wake up from the Brexit nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If I read the article properly, Britain is waking to what's going to be a long-lasting and shameful Brexit-hangover.

Little will be gained—if anything at all—and it's expected that the results will be disappointing for all involved. There's no fixing years of wasted, directionless political effort; rather, Britain will now enjoy plugging, bit by frustrating bit, the holes it dug into itself.

It baffles me that people actually voted for this. For all its faults, there's nothing like the EU. Yet, after this mess, they're just rolling with it?

[–] mindbleach 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Stupid fucking headline.

The UK was defrauded.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah, the writer of the article seems to think that the Brexiteers were honest politicians trying to achieve what they believed would be good things for Britain. I don't think that's a widely held view in Britain.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

We told you so

Love, Remainers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just makes starmers buffoonery of stating we will not rejoin in his lifetime, likely to be another 30 years, look daft. Labour was never going to be a trusted choice for ex ukippers choosing who to vote for this time no matter what he said. It's pointless pandering that will cost him long-term as either we stay out and carry on costing the economy or he rejoins and looks a flipper.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think that it's not whether Starmer wants to rejoin or not, it's more that it's reflective of political reality. Britain is now seen by the EU as an unreliable partner, and to repair that reputation will easily take a couple of decades. A start-stop attempt to rejoin, where Labour initiatives are reversed at the next change of government, would be as damaging as Brexit has been. There needs to be a recognition from at least the two largest parties that rejoining the EU is in Britain's interest. We're nowhere near that point, despite the fact that Brexit is now recognised as a howling teratoma by at least a small majority of British people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't buy that at all. The Tories yeah 100%, but they aren't there anymore, the adults are back in charge and the EU is going to want to shutdown right wing morons that have been spreading across the EU by showing Brexit was always a shit idea.

The stages of Brexit copium are very similar to the narcissist prayer, we are at the point equivalent to you deserved it right now with the excuses to stay out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Keir Starmer’s Labour Party — seemingly on the verge of winning a historic majority in the July 4 election — has pledged to leave the current Brexit settlement largely intact.

“I'm afraid the Labour Party doesn't have the right instincts,” said Steve Baker, the longtime ringleader of Tory Euroskeptic lawmakers in parliament, and currently a government minister.

“I don’t think anyone voted Leave because they were not happy that chemicals regulations were the same across Europe,” the opposition’s finance chief, Shadow Chancellor Rachel Reeves, told the FT last month.

Margaret Thatcher herself in 1988 complained that she had not spent a decade “throwing back the frontiers of state at home” to see them reimposed by Brussels — arguably lighting the touch-paper for modern British Euroskepticism.

Despite virtually every politician in Britain telling voters they want fewer arrivals, competing economic pressures have pushed ministers to use their absolute control of immigration rules to quietly liberalize.

Guy Verhofstadt, the outspoken ex-prime minister of Belgium who represented the European Parliament in talks between London and Brussels, thinks “Peak Brexit” has already been reached.


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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

This isn't a good summary, just a random assortment of paragraphs. The quotes lack all context. Autotldr tries its best, but it clearly wasn't enough this time.