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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Humans have scuba dived deeper than 663ft. This isn't even remotely comparable to what the last sub went through. I'm guessing this location was chosen as an easy win for the publicity.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Also, how does this company even still exist? I'd assume the victims billionaire families would have sued them out of existence/way into bankruptcy.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It doesn't. Oceangate is completely dissolved.

The co-founder of OceanGate started his own company called Blue Marble Exploration, and they are planning to start SCUBA diving in Dean's Blue Hole.

Not the same company. No submersible involved at all.

Literally nothing newsworthy about this than the founder's connection to OceanGate.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

He also left the company in 2013. This is just ragebait headlines.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Ah, thank you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

What does Dean have to say about this?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They signed release forms, waivers, etc

You can only sue for actual damages, as expressed monetarily.

Just cause we don't like these rich fucks doesn't mean they are stupid

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Just cause you signed a waiver doesn't mean you can't sue. Especially when the victims have more money than god, they will sue and win regardless..

[–] explodicle 2 points 1 month ago

It probably helps that the risks were obvious to everyone, too.

[–] QuantumSparkles 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is that a fleshlight for a whale

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago

A dork torque

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

The original guy in that company had such hubris that it amazes me that he was an engineer at one point. Choosing materials for a submarine that didn't fit the role (carbon fiber sucks at compression), going cheap on those parts (Boeing QC-lot rejected carbon fiber lol), over-reliance on commercial-grade components like the gamepad for submarine control, and the general "safety is overrated" mentality that eventually hoisted his own petard.

The submarine wasn't designated seaworthy by any third party organization and even independent engineering analysts said years prior that structural failure was less of an if and more of a when.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The off the shelf commercial parts (game controller, computer monitors, etc) weren't that bad of an idea... the bad idea was to not get anything that was fire safety rated. That whole submersible was a fire trap.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I agree, definitely for those safety-related critical components.

Got a separate sonar monitor that needs a controller to navigate menus? Sure a Logitech F710 would work for that. For actually controlling the entire sub? Definitely not.

There is a good reason engineers specify single points of failure so as to mitigate them in the design phase.

Move fast and break things isn't the right philosophy to have when you're leagues under the sea and a failure can be absolutely catastrophic lol.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Off the shelf controllers aren't a bad idea, but why Wireless? The US Navy switched to xbox controllers at one point because new recruits could use them with minimal training.

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[–] vaultdweller013 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly its impressive it did multiple trips before failure, if it had been an unmanned drone or something it would've been brilliant. But instead it turned people into fish food, what a fucken waste.

Also I misspelled drone initially as Dorne and now all I can imagine is Rogal Dorne being slowly lowered towards the Titanic on a crane.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Rogal Dorne, Praetorian of the Titanic, the Unyielding One.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He'd fortify the shit out of that sub.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Perturabo would claim that they could fortify even better,

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The USN has been using gamepads for years to control submarines. It's just a more intuitive interface for most people. They do however use corded controllers rather than wireless, because wired works. I'm unsure of what manufacturer they use, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that they got a proprietary X-box 360 controller that was made exclusively for them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Right, but at the very least the government goes through a commercial grade dedication screening for these types of things. It's not like Norfolk Naval Shipyard just goes "eh let's just put a X-box 360 controller from Amazon on it and call it a day."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Fair enough, I was just pointing out that isn't necessarily a bad idea. The way they did it obviously is, since even Boeing said it was a bad idea.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

My understanding is they use an off the shelf model, because they can buy a replacement pretty much anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He was an engineer?

Good god.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Now, this is a sacrifice I can support.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

On behalf of all us plebs, we thank you for finding a billionaire to sacrifice.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

We should get to vote for which Wealth Hoarder though. Another one from OceanGate is unoriginal.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

Don’t worry. We all do.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I’d be hard pressed to pick anybody to go before him.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Do people who pretend to be wealthy count? I can think of one other guy, the best guy, everybody is saying it.

[–] CareHare 10 points 1 month ago

Wow that guy sounds amazing! We'll make an exception for this very special guy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Anyone have a coupon for a 2for1 deal?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

To be fair, it would be the only time I’d give that guy my vote.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Add that Shkrelli guy and let all three of them go together. I’d love to see the Donald complaining about the rap music and then asking if they can stop at a drive through. I want to see them pull up at a McDonalds in that bitch. I’d pay money to see this movie. Someone make it.

[–] vaultdweller013 9 points 1 month ago

The prince of Saudi Arabia, King Charles, Vladimir Putin I could keep going but there are plenty of billionares who deserve to be fish paste.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I would say Trump...if he were an actual billionaire

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

People keep posting the Ocean Gate sub. This guy left that company in 2013.

https://nypost.com/2024/06/25/us-news/oceangate-co-founder-to-lead-dive-into-deans-blue-hole-in-bahamas/

Guillermo Söhnlein founded OceanGate in 2009 with Stockton Rush — who was one of the five killed during last June’s doomed dive — but left and started another deep-sea company, Blue Marble Exploration.

This year, Söhnlein plans to descend in a submersible on a danger-filled expedition into “Dean’s Blue Hole” in the Bahamas — one of the world’s deepest ocean sinkholes.

He will be joined by scientist Kenny Broad and chief medical officer and former NASA astronaut Scott Parazynski on the journey “in search of unprecedented findings.”

So he's taking a real scientist and a former astronaut on his yet unscene submarine to an actual unexplored part of the ocean. While this could just be a hype game for future commercial BS, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. Given the Oceangate reputation, I'll assume that Scott Parazynski will bail if the ship is unsafe. The Oceangate deigned was notorious in the private submersible community for being an unsound design. Light weight, "Space Age" materials makes no sense when you want the vessel to sink.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Can we make it weekly

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That sub looks like a giant Fleshlight.

Fitting since the people inside are all dicks.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

An economic system and religion I can get behind

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Can we up the amount? Let's offer the gods a 2 for 1 special and toss in another billionaire

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

A sinkhole you say…
We shall see if it lives up to its name.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

my oceangate told me the ocean keeps imploding his billionaire clients so i asked him how many billionaires he has and he said he just goes to the hedge fund and gets a new billionaire afterwards so i said it sounds like he's just feeding billionaires to t̴̥́ḫ̶̌̀e̶̩͎͂ ̴̧̩́̈́d̸̲͈͌e̴̯͐ệ̵͔p̶̮̞̃͘ and his financial advisor started crying

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I think it's a good idea.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

"Oh, no, I didn't require a sacrifice, I just thought, 'Man, fuck those guys.'"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Maybe there is something to sacrificing humans to appease the gods.

But then with billionaires and the planet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

gets popcorn.

This is gonna be good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Would it be possible to do a crowd found and buy Musk a seat? And also bezos? And sabotage the submersible? On second thought, fuck that, let's just buy a guillotine.

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