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I've been working on converting my gaming PC to Linux for a few weeks, but everything is running, but it all is just a little jankier than I would like.

I have an 8th gen Intel i7 and an Rtx 2070, running Arch linux.

Sometimes I boot up and my mouse doesn't work and I have to restart. Sometimes I launch games and they just don't launch right.

It feels like I'm doing a lot of work for no benefit. In fact, Elden ring runs way worse on my Linux partition than my Windows partition.

I've tried GE proton, gamemode, steam compatibility, everything... I'm sorry but I'm going to have to stick with Windows for gaming.

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[–] [email protected] 153 points 5 months ago (2 children)

somebody gave you bad advice if you chose arch for your first distro

[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I wonder if the Arch bros will ever realize they're doing more harm than good...

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Obviously NixOS is the way to go for a gaming OS, just use the right flake and you're all set!

/s

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nah, use Gentoo, you'll be hard-pressed to find something simpler.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I started using Linux when I was in high school. LFS has been my end goal, my Linux graal ever since. It's only been 23 years, I'll take care of it someday soon©.

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea 5 points 5 months ago

Even simpler! Nothing to get between you and the kernel. :)

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Linux may very well not be for you, but using Arch first is like jumping into the deep end to learn how to swim. It's no surprise you're drowning. I'd recommend you try a gaming-focused distro like Nobara before you go back to Windows for good.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Nobara is great if you're into Fedora. PopOS! or Linux Mint if you're into Debian. Those will take you further way faster and with less pain than any Arch based distro.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 months ago (15 children)

Who the hell recommended Arch to you? Arch is for when you've been using Linux for a few years and have gotten bored waiting for the latest updates to hit your repos.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

with the issues you've had i think it's perfectly understandable, but I'll agree with other commenters that arch is not a good choice for a first distro. i recommend trying dual booting windows and a more "beginner " distro like Linux mint or pop_os

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

What the hell, he uses Arch as a first checkout linux gaming distro?

Bro, you missed one small but crucial information there just at the beginning of your journey...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (5 children)

the reason why arch gets recommend a lot as a gaming distro is that it is bleeding edge. Their for has very up to date drivers and parches that can help gaming. But with the current state of gaming on Linux this is a bit less of a requirement. most distros are new enough for most games. Exception might be debian LTS or something.

So i totaly agree that choosing something other then arch for gaming is a good option if you are rather new to linux.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Arch Linux is great for people that want to do nothing but Arch Linux.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 10 points 5 months ago

True. It's also good for people who want to get stuff done. I used it for 5-ish years, and it was an incredibly productive, low-maintenance distro. I only switched because I wanted to run brtfs on root, so I figured I'd give openSUSE a shot since they do that by default.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Arch Linux

Unless you're on a good downstream like SteamOS, I'd suggest switching to something stable cutting edge (Fedora or Nobara if you want to put in zero effort).

Arch by itself will give you way the hell too many possible problems. You could waste hours on DKMS alone.

Mint will also work, but it has the downside of having slower updates to software packages.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (2 children)

First of all nothing to apologize, no one should be forcing anyone to use any OS.

Secondly, you shouldn't start with Arch, it's a very manual process that has several small things that can be done wrong. I recommend you try Mint, Pop or any other beginner friendly distro, you can still tinker and customize them as much as you want, but you will be starting from something that works instead of having to build a working system from the ground up without knowing what that looks like.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Even Endeavor would be better than going straight to Arch.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you're not having a good time, stop. Life is too short.

If you're still interested in using linux, LinuxMint or PopOs! are what most people would recommend to a new user, not Arch.

Arch can be perfect for users with the time, knowledge, and effort to perfectly tailor things to suit their needs. They can make it perfectly efficient, without any excess.
I just want to use my computer whenever I want it to work. I am fine with it having a few extra packages/applications that I might never use. I've being using linux as main (or only) operating system on/off for about 20 years, and I currently use Mint.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you're a beginner... or hate jank, don't use Arch. And make sure you're using a desktop environment that supports Wayland (GNOME or KDE). Gaming on X11 can be buggy, janky and inconsistent

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They are running Nvidia. Their only option for Wayland is kde.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (5 children)

sounds like your problem is likely a combo of trying bare arch and also an nvidia card. i'd recommend Pop!OS as i hear it's the best out of the box experience for nvidia owners, and if you want to stay arch based i'd try EndeavourOS as it's arguably the most mature and stable arch based distro today, it's what i use but i also have amd not nvidia so i can't speak for the nvidia experience for endeavour. maybe you want to wait a while before you try again just so you're not burning out on the frustration, too. good luck!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Seconding pop os for a solid starter Linux distro.

Been daily driving it for about 3 years now i think.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Arch for a beginner can be a bit too much.

Try Bazzite.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Thanks for the recommendations everyone! I plan on keeping Linux on my second drive to continue playing around with it, but my gaming will probably go back to Windows. Might give bazzite or popos a try next.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

I recommend trying another linux distro for a while. Arch has a pretty steep learning curve. So big respect for getting it to work as a first distro, but there is a lot of stuff you have to setup manually that just works on other distros. If you got more stuff working and get a little more familiar you can always go back to arch.

I use arch nowadays, but the first time i tried to install it i basically gave up a few times. If you just want to try it out in order to learn then it's perfectly cool to take some time. But if your goal is to play games then arch is just a means to an end. Then it becomes really annoying, because you cannot reach your goal.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Just a heads up, but gaming on an external drive with bazzite is a nightmare (if you end up trying to go that route).

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Lol try Linux mint, it just works

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I understand your struggle. As others said, Arch is not a beginner friendly distro.

I would suggest trying gaming tailored distros like Nobara, Chimera or Bazzite and see how you feel about them. Don't install your full steam library during these testing period, try games separately and prioritize the games you play the most.

Learning involves trial and error and the Linux ecosystem has a lot of that.

In the end it's ok if you say This is not for me right now

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Arch for gaming, what the hell

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Works quite well for me. But I would agree it’s not the best to start with if having little desktop Linux experience.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry but I'm going to have to stick with Windows for gaming.

That's ok, I forgive you.

Seriously, Windows works better for a lot of people, and that's fine. I went back to Windows several times before I made the switch permanently to Linux. You just gotta do what works for you.

If you decide to try Linux again, I would recommend a distro like chimera OS, nobara, or just vanilla fedora. I've personally had a lot of luck with those distros.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I switched my gaming PC to Linux a few months back. I distro hopped for a while due to various issues, and landed on openSUSE Tumbleweed. Everything just works (except for the occasional bug in the updates where I have to wait for the next snapshot for a fix, but that's NBD).

Caveat: I'm all AMD so no Nvidia stuff to worry about. YMMV.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

FWIW, I've got an i7-8700k with an RTX 3080. I initially had two major issues when I replaced Windows with Bazzite:

  1. Steam doesn't do great with libraries on NTFS partitions. Supposedly there are workarounds, but I couldn't get them to work for me. I had to reformat a couple drives as ext4 (and do a bunch of file management in the process) before things would play nice.

  2. I had my CPU overclocked to 4.8 GHz in Windows. BG3 kept crashing on me on Bazzite. Finally occurred to me to drop the overclock and I've played 40+ hours since, solid as a rock. Performance is comparable to Windows with OC. GPU temps are consistently better than Windows. Only thing I'm missing is HDR.

Bonus: GreenWithEnvy (for GPU fan curve) won't run in a Wayland session yet, apparently, so I've been running under X11 instead.

Hope this helps. YMMV. Happy gaming, whatever OS you use!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Nobara is a very good starting point for Linux. I personally know Linux stuff from an IT perspective, but personal use/driver troubleshooting is not something I care to fiddle with regularly. I started with Kubuntu since it's familiar, but eventually swapped to Nobara when I had some issues with the few games I play.
Nobara has been seamless and easy. Having all wine and proton dependencies preinstalled is much nicer and a lot of games Just Work ™️ out of the box.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Hi there, whoever suggested linux for your switch played a mean joke on you. Granted, arch works well if you know what you‘re doing, apparently. But no way it is a good starting distro.

I‘m not sure how eldenring works on linux but most games run without problems.

One little caveat is this: you need to understand that windows is a billion dollar product while linux is mostly community driven. It costs nothing, except many people donating their time. So I‘d suggest adopting a „its insane that hobbyists are able to build something like this“ view. Otherwise you‘ll get frustrated and will end up im privacy invasive windows territory again.

If you want a more gaming ready distro, try pop os or bazzite. Good luck

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

No point in forcing it upon itself, you'll just hate it Just if you are to try again, remember you can always ask about recommendations, maybe there will be a setup for you which works smoothly and out of the box

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Good luck! Linux is sadly not quite yet for everyone, but it’s so much further along than it was when I started in 1999.

I bounced between Linux and Windows for decades, but when the Recall debacle happened, it became clear that Microsoft have lost their collective minds. I wiped my system, put Garuda Linux on it, and everything works quite well for me with no tinkering except with user-level KDE settings. I also changed from an NVIDIA RTX 3070Ti to an AMD RX 7800XT just so everything related to graphics would just work and I didn’t have to wait and hope that explicit sync really does fix everything for NVIDIA on Wayland.

I also use proton-ge for everything (in Steam as well as in Lutris which uses umu-launcher) and every game I’ve attempted to run (thus far on the order of 35+ games), has run great, including Elden Ring. I’ve found in my 25 years experience, the trick with Linux is two-fold: researching hardware to guarantee full Linux support…and having patience. And I’ve fell victim to that last one dozens of times over the years which led me back to windows each time.

No more.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wrong distro. Start again.

Popos

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