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I hate that everything now is a subscription service instead of buying it and do whatever you want.

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[–] [email protected] 392 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Other than the recent nonsense, this is why I cancelled Netflix and went back to pirating. Content leaves unexpectedly? Not on my Nas.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Why I went to DVDs. There is libre software to rip them and depending on country it's legal, so basically you get a DRM-free legal copy with ability to archive or lend to a friend.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've taken to de-DRMing any e-books I bought from Amazon for that reason.

Also, the "You can only view this book on 3 devices" -- yeah .... fuck off.

Calibre + DeDRM plugin + KFX plugin. Perfectly legal too, as long as you aren't distributing them.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Btw, did you know of Weightless Books and Smashwords?

They may not have as many ebooks as Amazon, but they do offer DRM free ebooks, and may be worth keeping in mind to check before going straight to Amazon.

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[–] [email protected] 214 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Shit that should be fucking illegal, this.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 year ago (5 children)

If they were not aware of it before buying then it is illegal.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It should be. But you agreed to it. Gotta print out that child support declaration in 20 minutes before your lawyer has to go to court? Hey fuck you consumer. Have a medical emergency and need to print something to save a patient? Fuck you consumer.

Someone should sue them for everything they are. Because they are thieves of the highest order.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But you agreed to it.

When does an agreement become null and void when the knowledge and time needed to understand the terms, and especially whether they even stand in the various jurisdictions, is simply unfeasible for a layperson to be expected to possess?

In a similar vein, if an agreement requires a lawyer on call/retainer to interpret, what court besides a bought court would possibly uphold such a standard?

Fwiw I'm not asking this with the expectation of you personally having the answers, but to further highlight the absurdity of many of these so-called agreements.

[–] justastranger 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

EULAs and TOSs have been tossed out in court before under the logic that you need to understand an agreement for it to be legally binding and that not reading the agreement inherently prevents you from understanding it.

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[–] [email protected] 168 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Third voice for a Brother. I used to work an office supply store and they were by far the most reliable printers we sold.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I’ve had my Brother printer for several years and never had an issue. I don’t have the color one, just black and white. Would buy again.

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[–] [email protected] 165 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I just read an article the other day that said LG is about to start charging subscription fees for washing machines 🙄

I will go old school and start washing my clothes against a rock in the river before I'll pay a fucking subscription to use my own washing machine

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That is crazy.

Like a damn laundromat. So is LG gonna supply water and power too? Wtf are the charging for? The right to buy their product? Lmao. Fuck off.

Go analog. Real analog. Sticks and stones baby.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The article said the subscription was for "software updates" which really seems like something they should provide for free anyway so you're really just paying for the privilege to use their precious machine that you already paid for lol

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Software updates for what? New ways to wash your clothes? I only use like two or three settings in mine

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Every time I think printers can't get any worse, they get worse.

What's next? are they going to have to scan your anus to confirm that it's actually you printing things? I shouldn't give them ideas.

By the way, I'm sure there's a way to get into the firmware of the printer to disconnect it from that centralized service.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Or get the brother printer while they're still good.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

What’s next?

The firmware will ask for a tip every 10 pages.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Ready boys? Say it with me, now.

BROTHER👏LASER👏PRINTER👏

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love the fact that brother basically does no marketing as far as I know. They just end up shining like a diamond because they make a generally good product and everyone else around them makes absolute trash.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (10 children)
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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Subscriptions are out of fucking hand.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (14 children)

What the fuck is wrong with people? It's been common knowledge that hp is trash for decades now. The whole idea of capitalism is that the bad products fail when customers go to the competitors who do a better job, but hp is not a monopoly and there are better competitors that exist, but people keep in buying HP because frankly, they are too fucking stupid. Capitalism is a lie because consumers are too stupid to pick the best products.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

HP printers are now pure scamming dog shit. The HP printer division must have been taken over by criminals.

The first laser printer I worked with was a HP 4L and it was fantastic. So fantastic, that we implemented it company wide, and they were close to immortal. The last of them got killed off when we got follow-me print.

If you want a decent laser printer today, stay clear of HP and get a Brother instead.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (16 children)

I've been saying for about 15 years now -- you'd have to be a masochist to buy HP printers. Why do people keep enabling these shits? You just encourage them to be even worse. Don't stand for even a little of their bullshit and they will change or die. You make a noose for your own neck.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago

Printer company are one of the biggest legalized scammer we currently have. Out water and some ink they make huge amount of Profit.

They are the Definition of making Gold out of shit.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Their laptops and desktops are terribly cheap too. Just avoid HP all together is everyone's best bet.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So they have all these printers connected to their servers I guess. Nice. Not a security risk at all.

Best printer I've owned has been Brother. But hp is always at the top of reviews, because hp pays them off I guess.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Homeowner-targeted inkjet printers are evil, especially from HP. NEVER buy one that works a subscription into the purchase. They are garbage, and can disable your cartridges if you cancel your subscription.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (5 children)

A shame to hear how far HP has fallen. Back in the day they had some solid, workhorse laser printers that delivered for years with no issues and pretty good toner efficiency. Based on what I've read here, I'm not likely to buy another.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"You'll own nothing and you'll be happy"

I guess this sentence is already became the reality in some countries if you can't even buy a god damn printer without it locking you out.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My mom's Amazon Halo that counts steps just shut off because they ended the service. I do not trust anything that requires live service at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

nobody should support companies that place restrictions on their hardware for RANSOM

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is generally for a business lease contract with HP. I've never seen this done to a printer the person buys outright, only for contracted leased "pay-per-use" printers.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

HP does an ink subscription thing. They will try to trick you into it, too, so I'm sure lots of people sign up without realizing just by trying to use their printer software. Anyway, that ink stops working if you stop paying.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Well I guess I will keep my 13 years old b/w laser printer then. Still works like a charm. There is no dried ink, no DRM, nothing. And it just works even it has not turned on for a year.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Buy a brother printer instead. They may be a bit more expensive, but their easy mantainance and the amount of bootleg ink you can find online makes it worth the extra price.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I still use the same printer I got in 2004. Hp color laser jet 2600n. Highly recommend. It’s large and loud and toner is pricey. But toner is widely available, you can easily get 2,000+ pages out of a toner cart, I’ve generally found it to have native driver support in macOS and Linux at this point, it has an Ethernet jack so you can print over network, etc. the toner is also much more reasonable if you only print black and white, the $$$ is if you change all the toner carts at once.

It does have a toner tracking chip but you can override that in the firmware. they used to actually allow you to do such a thing!! It’s not even like a secret developer menu thing, it’s just an option you can pick although iirc it warns you print quality may suffer. or you can just buy blank chips for a few bucks, it’s just a little plastic tab that you break off and then you slide the old one out and the new one in. But that’s more for if you plan to refill the toner carts which I do not recommend; it’s a messy process where you have to burn/cut a hole in the cart, refill with powder, then seal it with tape. I tried it a few times and it was a huge mess and lead to leaky carts; not worth saving the $50 bucks or whatever

I’m pretty sure in like 2040 my house will be an anachronism of old tech like this. It’s already mostly there with some notable exceptions. If I have to subscribe I won’t buy it; if I buy it and find out I need to subscribe I’ll return it or sell it. I will pay month by month for items that justify a need for ongoing payment (like I pay once a year for Usenet access). But I don’t think I am in the target demo for basically any company lol

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I hate these things. I took one out to an abandoned reservoir and blew it to pieces with a .12 gauge shotgun. Very therapeutic.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I switched to one of the Epson EcoTanks after the HP Ink got super expensive (Over $150 to replace all 4 cartridges). Printer was $$$ but the ink in bottles ($15 a pop, Costco sells them all in a pack for $40) is cheap enough that for the in-frequent printing we do at home (My partner uses it more than me for making buttons and stuff)

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