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"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.
micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"
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Larger is not better with a motorcycle. It's gotta be quite heavy. Both of those things would take away from the biggest advantages a car has over a motorcycle.
I'd have to see a few things to care about this...
Braking time/distance. Sure it can go 126mph but how quick can it get back to zero.
How well can it corner or do a slolum maneuver? I don't how fast it can go in a straight line if it can't go though curves or swerve to avoid danger.
Braking time/distance. Sure it can go 126mph but how quick can it get back to zero.
Same as any other motorcycle. An oblivious land yacht driver changes lanes without noticing it, and the brick wall stops it almost instantaneously.
I am deeply skeptical at the 450 mile range figure, after searching for more detailed specs. This Cycleworld article says that the manufacturer officially described the battery as "700V, 50 Ah" yielding 35 kWh.
450 miles is 742 km. So the efficiency needed for that range would have to be 48 Wh/km (aka 702 MPGe). But that's problematic, because that sort of efficiency is in the (higher end; ie less-efficient) territory of ebikes, which are lighter and have lower top speeds. In an odd coincidence, my Bikonit MD750 Class 3 ebike achieves 48 Wh/km when cruising at 45 kph (28 mph) and weighs 44 kg, with dual batteries summing to 1.5 kWh.
So how will this electric motorbike equipped with a substantial-larger and heavier 35 kWh battery pack be able to achieve the same efficiency? Even accounting for the different testing regime -- US EPA cycle vs China CLTC -- there are significant questions here.
The Cycleworld article expresses similar doubts, suggesting a 333 mile range might be more reasonable. I agree, although even 65 Wh/km may be generous if this motorbike can't shave weight in other places beyond the battery pack.
Same shitty ebike and ev manufacturers do: Wildly inflate the numbers!
Even a world moto-tourist doesn't have a need for 450 miles at a time.
Who benefits from having the extra bulk and weight (and price) for such an extreme range figure?
The company selling it?
But they need to actually sell them. Electric motorcycles were a thing before they weren't. The market didn't accept them, and I don't think unrealistic range is going to be a major selling feature.
We could only speculate, but maybe they're banking on range anxiety driving sales?
That must be some crushing range anxiety! I don't think most motorcyclists would even want to sit on their bike for 10 hours at highway speeds for an entire day.
It's probably only that good if the rider weighs 90 lbs, is on flat terrain, it's 72F, and there's a nice tailwind (the extra bulk acts as a sail)
LOL. Ah, so they'd be using e-scooter math to get to this range? haha