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One of the major drivers of the exceptional heat building within Earth's atmosphere has reached levels beyond anything humans have ever experienced, officials announced on Thursday. Carbon dioxide, the gas that accounts for the majority of global warming caused by human activities, is accumulating "faster than ever," scientists from NOAA, the Scripps Institution of Oceanography and the University of California San Diego found. 

"Over the past year, we've experienced the hottest year on record, the hottest ocean temperatures on record, and a seemingly endless string of heat waves, droughts, floods, wildfires and storms," NOAA Administrator Rick Spinrad said in a press release. "Now we are finding that atmospheric CO2 levels are increasing faster than ever."

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Luckily, the fossil fuel companies told us it isn’t anthropogenic and not to worry about this so we will be okay. /s

[–] [email protected] 52 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

They’re also gunning for precedent of immunity from repercussions of wrongdoing through SCOTUS as we speak.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/09/fossil-fuel-allies-pressuring-supreme-court

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Won't save them from the mobs and pitchforks.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I mean, that’s great and all, but you can’t reappropriate corporate funds with pitchforks.

We need punitive rulings and legislation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

BBQs would kill two birds with one stone: get rid of the stupid and feed the hungry masses.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (7 children)

That still doesn’t address the need for funds to be redistributed from oil companies to the alternative energy industry or carbon mitigation projects.

It’s not about revenge. We need to address the climate crisis, and they need to pay the fuck up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So in other words, less Hannibal Lecter and more Robin Hood/Hackers/Mr. Robot?

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago (7 children)

When do we eat the rich and begin sabotaging these assholes private jets?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Sorry best we can do is misunderstand the root causes and misdirect our rage to marginalized people and turn to full blown fascism

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Which in turn leads to war, which destroys the environment tenfold, making sure even the slim chance of humanity coming through this as anything resembling civilisation even slimmer. We're thoroughly fucked. But hey, we created sooo much value for shareholders!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's gotta be people who have nothing to lose who are willing to start doing crazy fucked up shit, even if dying in the process.

I wonder how many there are, and what the spark would be for them to start going nuts.

But maybe also, there just aren't that many willing or rock bottom yet. Maybe we're mostly still comfortable, albeit unhappy. Might take a few more decades of business as usual.

Bread and circuses.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Most of those people are on the right fighting the valiant fight against 15 minute cities.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

You can start now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact: Teton County, Wyoming has the most billionaires per capita. Their jets are parked at the airport.

Do with this information what you will.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Wait... we aren't supposed to eat them yet?

...uh oh

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 7 months ago (4 children)

"The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere today is comparable to where it was around 4.3 million years ago during the mid-Pliocene epoch," NOAA said, "when sea level was about 75 feet higher than today, the average temperature was 7 degrees Fahrenheit higher than in pre-industrial times and studies indicate large forests occupied areas of the Arctic that are now tundra."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Until someone finds a way to combat climate change that also grows the GDP and makes all of the lines go up then what's the point of taking any action? Profit is the only thing that matters above the lives of any human or animal. If it's not profitable to fight climate change how can that be a good decision? Lol imagine making a decision that's not profitable. Imagine doing something that doesn't make the line go up! This is why nobody takes scientists and liberals and leftists seriously. Do you even realize the profit impact of what you're suggesting? GDP must only go up. UP UP UP

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It seems like our only hope is a breakthrough in carbon capture.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Carbon capture is a fools errand.

It takes just as much energy to get the carbon out of the air as it did to put it there in the first place. You can’t fight thermodynamics.

So unless we discover cheap, plentiful fusion in the next few years, or dedicate half a continent to solar and wind farms, we aren’t getting back any more carbon than we burn already.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Nuclear and solar would like a word. My entire life we've been told we can't have nuclear because NIMBY and "decade to build."

We'd be swimming in available power without fossil fuel level carbon release if we had just done it.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You expect me to pay for that with MY taxes when I can already barely afford anything because capitalist business owners are sucking the wealth generated by my productivity into their own bank accounts?

Facetiousness aside you can maybe tell I have some other ideas about economic changes which might help :)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Yeah but any economic changes you suggest will be called the new world order and they'll never go through

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Climate scientists should have lit themselves on fire in public places to warn us.

It's their fault!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If only they'd have said something. Repeatedly. For the last 50 years or so.

Oh well, too late now. Better burn a bit more so oil execs can finish the game with a high score.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

For the last 50 years or so

Multiply that by 3 and you're nearly correct. The first "quantitative prediction of global warming due to a hypothetical doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide" was published in 1896 by Svante Arrhenius, building on research from John Tyndall as far back as 1859. Source: Wikipedia, but with appropriate citations to the works in question.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Y’all are all forgetting something really important, a lot of people really wanted to make a lot of money. So it’s totally cool, they’ll definitely figure that problem out in the future

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

I get that it's a bit inappropriate to be flippant and make jokes but if I worried about this every time I saw a headline about it I'd die from my adrenal glands exploding and melting a hole through the back of my computer chair.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What do you want from me?

I already gave up everything, life is just work eat(if lucky i get to eat enough) sleep.

You ate up the value of my income and keep making everything more expensive while not adjusting my wage AND telling me to work harder. Fuck no.

You fix it, i don't have the means.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I feel like this was always the plan. Put the plebian frog in the pot of 9-5 corporate hellscape and slowly boil it. We're all too exhausted to fight.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

My first guess on the title was : "this should be caused by a positive feedback with forest fires in the loop".
...so, I went and read this Wikipedia article :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_feedbacks
... and it says :

(...) Carbon cycle uncertainty is driven by the large rates at which CO~2~ is both absorbed into plants and released when biomass burns or decays. For instance, permafrost thaw produces both CO~2~ and methane emissions, in ways that are difficult to model. (...)

But it also says that this one is not the most important feedback loop.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Not all of us. Realistically not me (46) or my kids (13, 11, 11) because we are Canadian but in the next 59 years? A lot of poor and brown ppl are going to die and we are going to collectively shrug. I'm genuinely curious what is going to be the event to push rich white countries to act.

Long story short, enjoy the ride. We don't know what the fuck we're doing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I hate to break this to you, but you’re not immortal. You will die.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

Didn't you read their comment? They're Canadian.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Don't need to be immortal. Just need to outlive the rest of you fuckers. Then I might be able to finally have some peace and quiet. Lol

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (7 children)

All those bombs and planes and tanks and drones and machinery of death emit CO2 - also the burning rubble and bodies

Look around, we're killing ourselves at every possible opportunity

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Spain has begun the planning for 100 human arcs (salvavidas as they call them). Each arc is a complex built into one of several mountain sides and each will hold 1000 people with room for hydroponics etc. The plan is that construction begins by 2030 and the lottery is held near 2037 when they’re nearing completion. But if you’re not a citizen or resident of Spain you’re not eligible for the lottery. Everyone else will fry unless your country is planning something similar.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That's hilarious. They could put a large dent in the climate problem for the same investment. Instead they're going full dystopian sci fi.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

The reason that climate efforts are being largely ignored at the top levels is because most world leaders have had it made known to them that climate is now beyond repair and we are in a death spiral. We are more or less in a countdown to collapse as each year climate worsens. The “efforts” being humored are largely pacification strategies for the masses. The masses are also self-soothing by embracing right-wing fascism.
The best gift you could bequeath your children at this point is a plot of land in a secluded cool forested place with a well and some cleared area for growing food.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

On that id rather die with everyone living outside than the callous fuckers in their mountains. Ain't no I in team.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

"It's fine"

...it is not the fall that hurts after all /s

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