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Call to Action: Fediverse Media Server (shlee.fedipress.au)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

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Respect who accept this challange

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Definitely

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

$3600 to build a media server anyone can access...... Bro is delusional. Not to mention, how are you gonna put a single thing on it without breaking the law? The moment there is a single video there that you don't have license/copyright to, the whole thing gets shut down. Especially if you charge for access, which you will have to, otherwise your bandwidth will be gone in a second. And you want to complicate this further by making it international.

Cool idea, but the logistics alone make this nearly impossible. This would only work in a pro-piracy community that understands that what they are doing is technically illegal.

Also, whatcha gonna do when the first CSAM gets uploaded and now suddenly you gotta follow legal regulations of numerous countries on how to properly report/sanitize the server?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Did you even read the article? It's not like all the users just get unrestricted access to storage to treat like a google drive, this is a backend thing. This guy is trying to find a solution to all the wasted bandwidth and storage space from sending copies to all the other instances they're federated with, which is a legimate issue that the instance admins are already dealing with on a daily basis. This will let them pool resources to help lower costs for smaller instances.

As to the CSAM thing I can only imagine it would be easier for one instance to purge fifty images/restore from a backup and everyone else just have to redo their thumbnails as opposed to all the instances having to purge and restore but that's just me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

(disclaimer, I didn't read the link yet) but isn't that what ipfs would do with it's content addressing

[+] [email protected] -7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You realize that with CSAM, you need to know the laws of every country you operate in and the laws surrounding that, right? Do you know an international lawyer willing to donate their time for free to make sure youre compliant with every regulation?

What about GDPR? Similar rules in other countries?

And again, how are you gonna put copyrighted material on it and NOT get shut down?

And imagine the best case scenario: you create a free media server for anyone to use. Wanna guess how long it'll take before you're out of bandwidth? Video streaming is bandwidth intensive. You're just gonna give all that out for free? Because remember, if you charge for it and a single copyrighted video is on there, you're looking at numerous criminal charges for facilitating it.

It's just not feasible unless you cram it full of ads or neuter it so much it's worthless. Stop being delusional. If this was on a piracy community I'd be on board because they at least understand that what they are doing isnt legal and would take proper precautions to try and stay under the radar. You'd expect it to one day get shut down.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I'm just curious as to how you think these are insurmountable problems while every instance in existence today is already managing to navigate these issues.

The only thing the author is suggesting is to pool the resources that are going to waste copying media posts around the fediverse into a new backend (that means it's not directly user accessible and presumably subject to the same restrictions as posts right now) so that the cost of media hosting is more distributed between all the fediverse instances instead of having the big ones hogging all the bandwidth of the small ones with memes because some users decided to subscribe to a community on say Lemmy.world.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Feature request in place for Jellyfin:
https://features.jellyfin.org/posts/184/federated-servers

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

am I crazy but wouldn't using ipfs essentially do all this for us?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Yep. And clients would be able to participate to the seeding.

Servers software developers would still have a massive amount of work to do to implement IPFS integration, but it's doable. IPFS also has work to do here to make IPFS work natively with cloud storage protocols (like Amazon S3), but it already exists.

One issue with open source software is that you often have to pick the least-effort solution to avoid burning out your free labour. Free time is limited, and if IPFS takes slightly too much work to add, then it's off the table.