Link to the article since I didn't see it posted.
THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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RULES
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
to all the people talking about malpractice insurance here.
Please stop, like seriously, what the fuck are you blabbering on about? You're arguing that we should pay a private sector company, who's entire goal is to make money, using tax dollars, to then use those tax dollars they got (but only some of them because we make profit, remember?) and then give that money to people who win cases against insurance.
This is an objectively worse solution. The current system with lawsuits against the state is much more efficient, and has this cool little thing where we don't randomly decide to give money to a fucking insurance company of all things..
you are literally suggesting we create a state funded extortion company.
Not sure who you're listening to but no one has suggested using tax dollars for the insurance. The cops have to pay for it, if they do shit and get sued, the insurance company pays out. They like their profit, so they drop the cops that lose them money. Cops can't get a job as a cop if they can't be insured.
Lawsuits against cops punishes the community since they are the ones paying out, not the cop. And typically cops see little to no repurcussions. If there are it's just off to the next town over and get hired there. You can't fix bad behavior with no consequences.
Yeah what we need is criminal incompetence laws for police, and they need to be consistently enforced. This was a serious crime the police committed and they need to be punished for it criminally
Jesus Christ. I'd like to think I'm aware enough to know the police lie and to not talk without a lawyer present if I were to be in a situation like that. But if they were to threaten to kill my dog then I'd very likely do whatever they asked.
if they were to threaten to kill my dog then I’d very likely do whatever they asked
I wouldn't, just because I'd assume they'd be just as likely to kill my pet anyway even after I confessed to something I didn't do.
A man needs a name
Maybe the cops need euthanized
Just don't say anything but "I'd like a lawyer" literally every time they ask you something. Nothing but that sentence, period. They are legally obligated to get you one. Kid didn't know any better. Fucking assholes.
Gentle reminder, in many places, "I'd like a lawyer" and similar statements do not actually invoke your right to have an attorney present and have been judged too confusing by the courts to count.
Look up the actual phrase required in your area.
Sorry, your argument that you asked repeatedly for your lawyer does not mean your rights were impeded. You see, our cops are idiots, and not only is that your problem, it's also your fault
And don't use any slang. In one case, they said "I want lawyer, dawg". The police later said that they thought he wanted a lawyer dog and since such does not exist they didn't comply.
The judge ruled in favour of the police.
You are a fucking shitty investigator if you have to threaten to kill a man's dog to get him to talk. I'm surprised this guy still has all of his fingernails.
What a bunch of cunts.
This exact thing was done to me, sans the "we killed your dog" bit.
The Finnish authorities see nothing wrong with having a person paint a cell in their own blood. They tried charging me with vandalism for it. They denied me my prescription medication, ffs.
ACAB
Watch "Power" on Netflix and one get the gist. Society needs the police, but there are plenty of sick sadistic mofos in their ranks.