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[–] captain_aggravated 72 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A mathematician, a physicist and an engineer are led into a long room. At the other end stands a beautiful naked woman. "When I ring this bell," she says" you may cross half the space between us. When I ring the bell again, you may again cross half the space between us." Both the mathematician and physicist groan and wander off. "Ah, it's Zeno's paradox, we can never actually reach her." The engineer, waiting for the bell, says "I think I can get close enough."

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (13 children)

why is there a naked woman?

[–] captain_aggravated 37 points 3 months ago (35 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Because humanity has no other desires between math and tits apparently.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Can confirm.

(I'm both a mathematician and a pervert)

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 months ago

Also mathematicians: here's this cool new thing, I called it "infinitesimal"

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago (3 children)

In computer engineering we have positive and negative zero.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

What algebra uses negative 0?

[–] agamemnonymous 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When taking about limits, you can approach 0 from the positive or negative direction, which can give very different results. For example, lim cotx, x->0+ = ∞ while lim cotx, x->0- = -∞

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Speaking as a mathematician, it's not really accurate to call that -0.

[–] agamemnonymous 5 points 3 months ago

Yes, but it is infinitesimally close.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (5 children)

IEEE 754

I mean it's an algebra, isn't it? And it definitely was mathematicians who came up with the thing. In the same way that artists didn't come up with the CGI colour palette.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

And, as a mathematician who has been coding a library to create scaled geometric graphics for his paper, I hate -0.0.

Seriously, I run every number where sign determines action through a function I call "fix_zero" just because tiny tiny rounding errors pile up in floats, even is numpy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (8 children)

What do you mean? In two's complement, there is only one zero.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago

IEEE 754 floating point numbers have a signed bit at the front, causing +0 and -0 to exist.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Specifically I was referring to standard float representation which permits signed zeros. However, other comments provide some interesting examples also.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Limit x->0 { x } = 0 ? Noway

[–] pumpkinseedoil 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Wait do you actually say "limit" instead of "limes" in English?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Yes, as in "Why can't I hold all these limits?"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I usually uses lim

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I was gonna say... Calculus is all about saying it's infinitely approaching zero so let's assume it is zero.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

cosmologists: sin(x) ~= 10

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"small but non-zero" is one of my favorite phrases 😅

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I like Paul Erdős's usage of "epsilon" to refer to children

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i mean, mathematically speaking, every number that isn't zero, is further away from zero, than the number before it.

So there is a point to the statement of "approaching zero" as well "near zero" and "about zero" since 100 probably isn't about zero.

Also CS nerds would like to fight you about floating point values.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Whoa slow down there buddy. Proposing numbers before numbers like they are a given.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

The infinitesimal has entered the chat.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

lets ignore the higher order terms for now. five lines below look at this beautiful exact equality that we got

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

What about large values of zero?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago
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