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Is there a way to disable the "Restart to Keep Using Firefox" page? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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I find it incredibly disruptive every time this page comes up and it's never completely capable of restoring my tabs. Is there any way to disable it so that it will instead update when I choose to restart Firefox?

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[–] [email protected] 116 points 3 months ago (3 children)

When this happens, Firefox has been updated in the background & the non-updated parts that're loaded into memory attempted to load one of the updated parts & found that they were no longer compatible, causing this message to appear.

At this point you HAVE to restart Firefox in order to be able to use it, no way around it. Soooo very fun on Mac & Linux since both can update in the background. It's also possible to have this happen on Windows, but it's far more rare as it seems to require having multiple different instances running at once.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

On Linux at least, if you install through the package manager, it'll only update when you update the rest of your packages. And you can be completely in control of when that happens.

On my work Mac, I just update manually. The menu icon tells me when a new version is available, so I update within a day or two of that popping up.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

On Linux at least, if you install through the package manager, it'll only update when you update the rest of your packages. And you can be completely in control of when that happens.

Except on Ubuntu. Also, fuck snaps

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ew, those get installed via the regular package manager?

Don't use Ubuntu then...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ubuntu installs the snap version by default whether you're using the GUI software manager or apt.

I use Mint instead nowadays

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Damn, computers have gotten really far if nowadays we're happily throwing away the performance of dockerizing ˜everything on entirely normal application installs. Sigh.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Sucks when the company I work in uses Kubuntu.

I could disable this feature easily. But idk...

Additionally something to keep in mind: Better than Windows in every aspect. I would still use Kubuntu. Its fine.

[–] taladar 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Probably doesn't happen as much on Windows because Windows has issues replacing files that are open.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Common windows W 😎

^/s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Happens to me on Windows about once a week FWIW.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Hamburger menu -> Settings -> General -> "Firefox Updates" -> "check for updates but let you choose to install them"

As for losing open tabs, there're a few different extensions that'll allow you to bookmark all open tabs and throw 'em in a folder. Easy enough to do that before updating, then just delete the folder that's created via the bookmarks manager once you've updated/reopened tabs.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

be warned, it'll give you unearned optimism about how responsible you are to revisit the tabs you saved but will never see the light of day again.

Source: someone who's disappointed in themselves

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

I got bookmarks going back a decade, sometimes I try to visit a random one and find that it no longer exists and I don't remember what it was or why I saved it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When you mentioned it I remembered that of course there is a setting for this.. but when I went to check it just says "Updates disabled by your organisation" In this case it's a work laptop that has a bunch of "security" things installed on it which prevent me from doing things like ...installing applications I need to do my job. Not sure how Firefox is able to update when it's been explicitly disabled, but I will at least change this setting on my personal computer.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

In that case the issue is likely that files on disk are being modified by whatever mechanism your IT uses to push updates to devices. If the program files are modified while Firefox is running then you will unavoidably get this prompt.

I suppose the best you can do is to ask your IT folks to not update programs that are currently running.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Never seen anyone using the phrase Hamburger menu. I'll be using it now onwards. Thank you random lemmy user!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I have been using Firefox as my only browser for many, many years now and I have never seen that message before.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

it only appears on linux if you update your browser while it's running.
iirc existing tabs usually just keep working but you cannot reload or open new ones until a full browser restart.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Updating anything with stuff running is a bad idea. Yeah, yeah, I know all about the cases where this works, but I've spent too much time fixing it when it doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Good luck trying to update systemd

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

atomic updates 🧠

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Same, but I've only recently started seeing it

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you on Ubuntu/using a snap installed Firefox?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm on macOS.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh, I am sorry

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do not worry, for they have fallen like many of our siblings; yet they are in a better place than some, like windows users.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You've got it backwards. Of the two, Windows is closer to the open source ethos. Apple is a total control freak. Obviously both are bad, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

At least MacOS is more Unix-like. So yes, in nearly everything important to a Linux user except CLI-UX (Command line interface user experience, nice word lol) Mac is worse than Windows somewhat, but as I would see the CLI-UX as one of the most important things (in my workflow, which is based on Linux tho), Max would be better than Windows. But of course, both are trash.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Weird. I’ve never seen that on my Macs. I always have to click on “About Firefox” to check for and download any updates so it only updates when I do that.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 3 points 3 months ago

There's also the menu icon, which let's you know there's a new version and you should update.

I've never had Firefox update without my consent on macOS or Linux.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I've never had any issues with tabs not restoring (I have 6729 tabs currently open, on the newest FF release, updated many times). What do you mean by "never completely capable of restoring my tabs"?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 4 points 3 months ago

I'm guessing they mean that state on the page is lost. Because that absolutely happens. I've never lost a tab and I usually have dozens if not hundreds of tabs open.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How do you tab through so many tabs

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

With the little upside down arrow thing, you can search through open tabs. No need to scroll through them. I think that answers what you were asking.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Thanks for answering How, now the real question is Why.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I may have misworded it a bit. The tabs themselves get restored, but the state of the tabs (being logged in to a site, for example) isn't always retained. In all fairness this is perhaps due to my privacy settings, but I'd prefer it if Firefox didn't force me to restart.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

oh yeah, that happens to me too sometimes. Weirdly, it only seems to happen to some sites, while others always keep me logged in.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

A different angle of attack might be ... why isn't it capable of restoring your tabs and is that fixable?

Particularly relevant since this seems to be IT enforced updates.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But it restores tabs? In fact I think nowadays that's the default behavior unless you turn it off.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Did you read what OP wrote?

I don't know why two of you are replying to me saying "but it restores my tabs?"

I'm asking OP "what's going on that it doesn't restore your tabs?'

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Maybe this? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/managing-firefox-updates

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Well, for me it usually only appear after my tabs already crashed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I'm looking for a soultion as well, since I use always private mode my tabs aren't even restored after the restart and I get to lose all my tabs lol.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Couldn't you just close Firefox overnight and then set updates to happen at 3am?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I have the same issue but I feel the main problem is not this page but the fact that the tabs are lost. I've been using FF for so long and I keep losing tabs on updates. It's really frustrating.