Celebrated greed will be our end.

Might not make it? Sorry man we're literally looking down the barrel of end times.

Human greed can only be stopped when the earth has nothing left to give.

This is the reality we all exist in and 99% of us are powerless to change it, unless we all collectively agree to (spoiler we're not gunna).

EVs are garbage anyways. The only way to actually save anything is to migrate most of the commonly occurring transportation to public electric systems like trains.

EVs are made in a non sustainable manner by raping the earth for the last scraps of rare earth materials, they're hardly the answer

It's not a might at this point.

Is there a number on the break even point where it’s better for the environment to buy a new EV than to keep driving an old ICE vehicle? I bike most days when I don’t need to buy more than a backpack of groceries or go more than 3 miles. Surely when you consider the carbon cost of refining materials and constructing a whole new vehicle, it doesn’t make sense in most situations for people who drive less than 30 minutes a day on average. This is of course assuming you have a current vehicle, new vehicles should have to be hybrid/EV in the modern era.

I guess one last year has been allowed. After that a flood of cheap (true prices) chinese EVs will arrive.

Technically the first one was developed in the late 1800s, but it had a range of about 5 meters.

I remember an early Saturn EV that was never sold, only leased so GM could maintain ownership of them. Even with a limited range, the drivers all loved them for commuting and running errands, and many tried to purchase them outright, which GM refused. Eventually, GM issued a mandatory recall for all the Saturn EVs, mothballed the project, and then they released the Hummer... made me sick even at the time.

Well to be fair, trying to sell anything with the word mini in it in America is it uphill struggle; if there's one thing us Americans hate, it's walking uphill.

I know Toyota is still ragging on EVs because they invested a lot into hydrogen tech and want that to be the next big thing instead. But I didn't know Honda, Mazda and Suzuki also under-invested.

I know someone with a decade old Leaf and that thing is still going strong with more than 300k on it.

Japan doesn't have enough electricity. After Fukushima, they lost most of their nuclear. The country is densely populated, and the parts that aren't populated are covered in forested mountains, which all makes building the required amount of renewables very difficult. So today and in the future, Japan runs on coal and natural gas. So they make cars that run on hydrogen (which is more efficient to create out of their imported natural gas than burning the gas for electricity) and then sell those abroad greenwashed as "but you can produce hydrogen from green electricity!"

The tariffs were explicitly to protect them. To prevent them from having to compete. We're about to eat a lot of shit.

Watching that in my high school electronics class was a early radicalizing moment

Today I learned: the "conspiracy theory" about the oil industry killing electric cars in the 90's was absolutely true.

Gotta love the Japanese culture of holding onto tradition until you can't anymore.

Gotta remember that Japan was still mostly feudal up until the World Wars. Pretty recent in human history.

Tesla isn't really a major car company in the transitional sense since they didn't exist at all as a pre-EV car company.