Just in: capitalism continues to be shit
this post was submitted on 14 May 2024
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Celebrated greed will be our end.
The kick is there is a large voting block who thinks we aren't being greedy enough.
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This shit actually hurts my soul. This is the type of shit as to why we might not make it. We have the technology to mitigate climate change yet we don't because those in power don't want to see their power decrease. It's a serious reason why we might not make it. How do we even begin to take direct action? I really have no clue, this entire planet, life as we know it, is entirely fucked if we don't do something soon. The US government gave billions to implement charging infrastructure and the corps did jack SHIT with it, the government has become the corps fuck pig, bent over dishing out money while getting fucked.
Might not make it? Sorry man we're literally looking down the barrel of end times.
Human greed can only be stopped when the earth has nothing left to give.
This is the reality we all exist in and 99% of us are powerless to change it, unless we all collectively agree to (spoiler we're not gunna).
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Is there a number on the break even point where it’s better for the environment to buy a new EV than to keep driving an old ICE vehicle? I bike most days when I don’t need to buy more than a backpack of groceries or go more than 3 miles. Surely when you consider the carbon cost of refining materials and constructing a whole new vehicle, it doesn’t make sense in most situations for people who drive less than 30 minutes a day on average. This is of course assuming you have a current vehicle, new vehicles should have to be hybrid/EV in the modern era.
It's not a might at this point.
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More of that capitalist innovation I keep hearing about huh. Finding innovative new ways to stop new technology that threatens their business from reaching a broader market! Great job
I guess one last year has been allowed. After that a flood of cheap (true prices) chinese EVs will arrive.
Don’t worry, Biden just imposed tariffs on Chinese EVs so they can rest easy now.
Nothing surprising.
EVs have been developed since the 90s at least as far as I know, and progress on them has been sabotaged at nearly every turn by the industry.
Technically the first one was developed in the late 1800s, but it had a range of about 5 meters.
41 miles at 20mph.
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I remember an early Saturn EV that was never sold, only leased so GM could maintain ownership of them. Even with a limited range, the drivers all loved them for commuting and running errands, and many tried to purchase them outright, which GM refused. Eventually, GM issued a mandatory recall for all the Saturn EVs, mothballed the project, and then they released the Hummer... made me sick even at the time.
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Japanese car manufacturers actually sell a lot of EVs... in Japan. They don't seem to be interested in selling those mini EVs abroad.
Well to be fair, trying to sell anything with the word mini in it in America is it uphill struggle; if there's one thing us Americans hate, it's walking uphill.
Or just walking.
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And people don't really care about it . Let the wheel spin and get as much as you can while you ride, don't think about next drivers.
Japan in japan sabotages cars. The real issue is that Japan went deep on hydrogen power combined with the large increase in electric prices after 3/11 any future of electric car died for the Japanese domestic market. Toyota in particular put its money in hydrogen buses, cars and other things which lead to a galaoagos tech like half of the rest of the crap in japan. Theres also some general resistance to electric over the past decade to create a parallel technology stack to china which fizzled out.
is that purely because they can't make them well or is there another reason?
honestly the japanese EV ive been in felt decent?
I know Toyota is still ragging on EVs because they invested a lot into hydrogen tech and want that to be the next big thing instead. But I didn't know Honda, Mazda and Suzuki also under-invested.
It isn't about development investment. It's about engines. Engines have long tail after sales profits from maintenance and parts. It's why Toyota recently unveiled their ammonia fueled engine and declared electric vehicles are dead. Electric engines remove a ton of after sales profits in the form of servicing, spare parts and upgrades.
Honda is full-on for hydrogen as well.
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I know someone with a decade old Leaf and that thing is still going strong with more than 300k on it.
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Japan doesn't have enough electricity. After Fukushima, they lost most of their nuclear. The country is densely populated, and the parts that aren't populated are covered in forested mountains, which all makes building the required amount of renewables very difficult. So today and in the future, Japan runs on coal and natural gas. So they make cars that run on hydrogen (which is more efficient to create out of their imported natural gas than burning the gas for electricity) and then sell those abroad greenwashed as "but you can produce hydrogen from green electricity!"
First of all EVs do not need that much power. We are talking something like 25% more electricity production for a country like Japan. Then Japan has rather a lot of onshore and even more offshore wind potential. Mountains are a problem, but hardly something which can not be overcome. Solar can easily be installed on roofs and mountains are even less of a problem.
Also really important to say it. Combustion engines in cars are massivly inefficent. So an EV is still better for the climate, even if run with coal electricity. The other factor is that Japans population is falling. So they will need less power over the long term.
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Great timeline isn't it
Imagine where we’d be if this stuff was allowed to mature in the 2000s alone
Who [Is Killing] The Electric Car
Watching that in my high school electronics class was a early radicalizing moment
Today I learned: the "conspiracy theory" about the oil industry killing electric cars in the 90's was absolutely true.
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Force them to commit or repeal Chinese tariffs
The tariffs were explicitly to protect them. To prevent them from having to compete. We're about to eat a lot of shit.
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We're all going to fry in old age. Our children are going to become sterile. Who tf knows what's going to happen to whatever ppl make it past that.
Seems kind of spurious to call lobbying sabotage as if the politicians being lobbied are machines and not human beings doing what they've been elected to do as nominally bourgeois party members.
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The Japanese car companies put all their eggs in the hydrogen basket, despite their early head start in EV with the Toyota Prius and such, and as hydrogen looks to be more and more of a dead end due to transportation and safety concerns, of course they are going to be sandbagging EV adoption to buy time and catch up.
Gotta love the Japanese culture of holding onto tradition until you can't anymore.
Gotta remember that Japan was still mostly feudal up until the World Wars. Pretty recent in human history.
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At this rate Saudi Arabia will beat Japan on EVs. A very big claim but I have cause to believe it.
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Tesla and Tata Motors are exceptions noted, but noted highlighted in the article.
Tesla isn't really a major car company in the transitional sense since they didn't exist at all as a pre-EV car company.
Companies doing austerity internally to own the clean energy enjoyers
Sounds like oil tycoons didn't find ev adoption humorous any more
Now that we've trained the whole world in american-style corporate criminality, we're gonna pull the rug out from them and reveal ourselves to be the good guys! Right? Right, guys?
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