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[-] [email protected] 140 points 1 month ago

The government should never be allowed to put its own citizens to death. The government is not infallible. The government has put innocent people to death.

[-] [email protected] 73 points 1 month ago

The same government can't even be trusted to reliably fix a pothole.

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[-] [email protected] 84 points 1 month ago

Regardless of the method of execution, imagine knowing the exact date and time of your death and knowing nothing you could do would stop it. That is torture, plain and simple. It should be in violation of the eighth amendment.

[-] [email protected] 70 points 1 month ago

Consider Japan, who does it differently. Death row inmates in Japan are not told their execution dates, as they had issues with people committing suicide before they could be executed. So now they only find out with just a few hours of notice when they're going to be executed. You could be sitting in your cell, ten years into your sentence, enjoying an otherwise ordinary, quiet day in prison, only to be told that it's time to die, whether you're ready for it or not, the equipment and staff are already prepared and there's no time left to argue your case.

Honestly, I don't know which one is "better". They're both cruel in their own ways.

[-] Kecessa 59 points 1 month ago

The better one is no death penalty at all.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

"Good night, Westley. Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

It's been ruled that a punishment needs to be BOTH cruel AND unusual, to qualify as a violation. One or the other is fine, as long as it's not both. Scalping someone for petty theft would be okay as long as most-everyone convicted got scalped.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Or is it cruel to make someone wake up and ask "is this the day that I will die?"

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago
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[-] [email protected] 79 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I feel like if they fuck it up your sentence it should be commuted. They shouldn't get a do-over.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

It's not the case here, but fuckups tend to happen when the person is morbidly obese and therefore a vein can't be found.

Not making a point one way or another, just sharing a bit of information. This is a problem in the medical field as well.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

I used to think people stay years on death row. Are you saying you can stay morbidly obese on prison food?

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

I believe that photograph is from 1999 when he got arrested. He was sentenced to death in 2000, so that's over 20 years waiting. And yes, obesity is becoming a problem inside prisons too (prisonlegalnews.org).

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Not sure about death row, but many prisons have a commissary where you can buy junk food with personal funds either brought in with you from the outside or transferred from friends and family outside. Some people don't get fat -until- they go to prison.

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[-] [email protected] 71 points 1 month ago

If you survive one execution I don't think they should be allowed a do over, let him live in his cell, he earned it.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

I've heard (don't know if it's true) that in the old days if you survived a hanging then you were allowed to live

[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

I'd always heard the sentence 'hung by the neck until dead' was taken literally: If you survived the drop, you're just gonna be hanging there longer. The result is the same.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

I’m gonna be pedantic for a second, hanged* not “hung”

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

"... and they was right!"

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The law/sentence was actually changed after a Scottish woman survived being hanged resulting in this specific wording. There was a time when people did survive and were freed.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I think that rule applied to the guillotine. If the blade stopped on the way down it was considered an act of god or some such.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

I think there was a case somewhere that the prisoner was sentenced to death, and was executed ina fashion that didn't quite work.

But technically he did die for a minute or two before his heart restarted, and he sued to be released from prison because he technically served his sentence.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately it doesn't look like it. I misremembered a few details, he "died" from natural causes in prison, not execution. The court ruled "Schreiber is either alive, in which case he must remain in prison, or he is dead, in which case this appeal is moot."

His name was Benjamin Schreiber.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I agree. You get one try to execute, you fail? To bad.

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[-] [email protected] 64 points 1 month ago

Abolish capital punishment. Freaking primitive apes.

[-] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago

Death penalty needs to go.

[-] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago

Cruel and unusual. Unconstitutional.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

I can’t think of a time in human history where we weren’t barbaric.

That’s not to say we shouldn’t change but I sure a fuck don’t see it happening anytime soon.

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