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Called Project 2025, it would block the expansion of the electrical grid for wind and solar energy; slash funding for the Environmental Protection Agency’s environmental justice office; shutter the Energy Department’s renewable energy offices; prevent states from adopting California’s car pollution standards; and delegate more regulation of polluting industries to Republican state officials.

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[–] [email protected] 159 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally trying to bring about the apocalypse.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Not even hyperbole:

https://qz.com/1270516/jerusalem-embassy-trumps-foreign-policy-looks-like-rapture-christians-plan-to-trigger-apocalypse

"Trump is listening to a voice they were not: evangelical Christians who appear to believe in the “Rapture.” Some, like vice president Mike Pence and secretary of state Mike Pompeo, hold posts inside his cabinet. For Rapture Christians, returning Jerusalem to the Jewish people is a key to the second coming of Christ.

A fundamental part of believing in the Rapture is believing that all of Jerusalem (currently split between Arab and Israeli-held territory) must be returned to the Jewish people, and then the rest of the world must go to war. For Christians awaiting end times, Israel “is at the center of the end of history,” said Greg Carey, a professor of the New Testament at Lancaster Theological Seminary. “History will culminate with this great battle” in Israel, Carey said.

Some White House officials and supporters have described the Trump administration’s actions in Israel with similar language. ”When we open the American Embassy in Jerusalem, we will in a very real sense end this historic friction, we’ll embrace reality,” vice president Pence said in an interview with the Christian Broadcast Network on May 3. Trump supporter and Fox News host Jeanine Pirro said Monday that the president had fulfilled a biblical prophesy.

Critics warn that Rapture-believing evangelicals pose a threat to global peace. “They want to bring on the Kingdom of Christ, and their version is weaponized,” said Mikey Weinstein, the founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, a watchdog group that tracks Christian fundamentalism in the military. “They want to do whatever they can do to bring their version of Jesus back.”

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Ah yes. The best way to make Christ come back. Destroy the planet 👍

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Not only that, but these scum swear they'll be saved and go to heaven. They do things against practically every word Jesus says. Love thy neighbor, thou shall not kill, steal, covet, blah blah. Yet they really believe all will be forgotten and forgiven? That's gold medal mental gymnastics.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“They want to do whatever they can do to bring their version of Jesus back.”

IMO Jesus is going to come back, take one look around, and start flipping tables.

Republicans and Americans, mostly, are so far afield from the teachings of Jesus that J.H.C. will call for another flood. Or asteroids. Or 40 years of volcanos.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Republicans and Americans

No, just the Republican Americans. The ones who say they're Christian but completely ignore how often the Bible outright says to love those around us in favor of hatred because of some irrelevant thing that doesn't affect them in the slightest, like race or sexuality.

The rest of us normal people are capable of acceptance of each other and desire for the greater good.

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[–] [email protected] 145 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God help us all... Seriously, the world is literally on fire and these idiots want to throw oil on the fire. In another, more just timeline, they'd hang for crimes against humanity

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wait until society starts disintegrating when the food chain collapses. These fuckers will be hunted down.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

Nah, these fuckers will hunt Trans People, Jews and POC

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

They won't. You are living in your fantasy world.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean what the fuck, the world literally just had the hottest month in 120k years. Half the world’s on fire, the other half is in a drought. When does the bullshit end around Climate Change??

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

In the United States after the boomers die off we will no longer have that barrier to making climate change a major part of our future. Gen X, Millenials, and Zoomers are all on board for that.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's unfortunate they won't die off sooner so we can actively get to work on fixing their mess. We don't have the time though

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Right? I wish COVID had been just a little bit worse.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For the good of literally everything, they need to die way, way faster / sooner.

Yes, this includes people I know. Yeah, it'd be (kinda) sad. But it'd be better for all.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Problem is though, we might not have time enough to wait for that to happen

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Twenty years ago I was saying the same thing. Things have got worse. I hope you're right this time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Boomers are still in charge unfortunately

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The people putting forth these suggestions never really leave their airconditioned place of work, cars, homes, and rarely hotels or vacation homes. They are usually unaffected by floods, tornadoes, storms, fires, etc.

And republicans live by the creed that if it's not directly impacting themselves it is either not real, or if it is, it's not that serious.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When we grab pitch forks and torches.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

~~Torches~~ rechargable led flashlights.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Why anyone would vote for these Republican clowns is beyond my understanding.

Most surprisingly, evangelicals, who are devinely commanded to be good stewards and protectors of creation, seem to completely ignore environmental protection. Extremely unchristian.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

The evangelicals seem to be trying to accelerate their end times, which also brings rationalization that present day and future climate conditions are irrelevant because they'll be swept up into the sweet, sweet air conditioned confines of their heavenly city while they laugh at the libtards left behind burning up in the aftermath.

Source: I grew up in this shit.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Conservatives have been programmed to believe that everything the other side says is a lie (it's not) and that they are good people (they are not). They believe in their assumptions rather than facts. They put more faith in heavily edited books from 2000 years ago than modern science.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Correction, they put their faith in what people tell them those books say. They don't actually read or comprehend the books.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For the low low price of a little mea culpa on Sunday you too can be a raging pustule the rest of the week too…

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes, but if the apocalypse happens, they get Jesus back and the joy of watching all of us sinners burn in a lake of fire.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Pretty much by definition with Christianity, if you'd enjoy seeing others in the lake of fire, you'll be right beside them.

It's weird so many "Christians" don't have any interest in actually being Christian

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The conservative commitment to being anti intellectual is the only thing they conserve.

[–] formatc 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We really need to start referring to them as regressives.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I appreciate them taking the mask off. Hopefully it'll will convince the "both sides are the same" non-voters to show up and help prevent the decent into fascism.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only if the people we vote in are more interested in stopping fascism than maintaining decorum.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s not going to happen until we get the majority of the elected boomers out of the Democratic Party. The boomers in the Democratic Party are the most milquetoast policy makers. They literally will stand up for nothing. They let fake Democrats like Joe Manchin hold them hostage and then ignore all the younger elected officials who want to do anything because they’re worried the policies of the young dems is too “leftist.” They, like all boomers refuse to hand over power to anything while still somehow screaming “It’s the young’s responsibility to save our country! Get out and vote!” Fuck them.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Republican party is an existential threat to the continued existence of the human species.

They must be stopped at any and all costs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

There was a time when I would have dismissed this as hyperbole, but now I tend to agree.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

A bit off topic but I had a thought about this a while back. There are people whose whole income is to write stuff like this. That is their entire contribution to the human race. Get government make work jobs having endless meetings when their party is in power, sit on think tanks when it is not.

No skillet, haven't worked a day in their life, if they were given any power would cause chaos, never struggled over finances, no real opinions except in their own greatness. An entire class of influence peddlers supported by the tax dollars of people who produce.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have a sad hunch that in a 10~15 years time, right/far-right wind political parties will criticize the left for "not having done enough" and start a propaganda with a hopeful message: "we can fix this!" (when CC really starts hurting the economy)

Most of their voters will forget years of science denial, laws that allowed companies to pollute the world, political malpractice, etc... Those parties (in the US and EU) won't be hurt once they switch their narratives

This is subjective, but I think the vast majority of our system is not only incapable of thinking long-term, but also remembers very little. Humanity's behavior feels similar to an ant on a leaf just flowing down a creek

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These are the fools that believe power, position and buckets’o’bux will insulate them from the apocalypse.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The irony is those are supposed to be those good, god fearing folks. Pretty sure the Bible tells all kinds of stories about the end of days, and not one listened

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Oh they listened, and they're immanentizing it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

The scariest bit is that they know this will appeal to the base to “own the libs”. We are absolutely fucked if Trump wins.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I don’t know how anyone votes for this. It’s insane

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

What the fuck? Seriously why? I get that they're in corporations' pockets but even then this is too extreme.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And call anyone who objects a pansy.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Project Kill The Planet By 2025

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