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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by hal_5700X to c/games
 

It’s crazy to see Sony kill their golden goose.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 7 months ago (15 children)

I was going to get this game. Now I'm not.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I was also waiting for a sale, but won't bother now.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 7 months ago (1 children)

All Sony had to do was nothing and they still fucked it up.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 7 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

In Australia, we'd call it the Bradbury strategy, named after a speed skater who won a gold medal when the 4 or so skaters in front of him fell over on the final lap. Keep doing your thing and wait for everyone else to fuck up.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I would strongly disagree with the "does nothing" part. Steam has always been improving itself constantly through the years.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 10 points 7 months ago

Sure, but they don't change the stuff that works.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

In other circles I believe this is referred to as the "Luigi method"

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[–] weirdo_from_space 52 points 7 months ago (1 children)

See, this is why the liveservice model is fundementally bad. Even if they don't fuck it up on launch, they can always fuck it up later.

Stick to offline folks.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And even if we accept that it was always intended to be PSN-only and they decided to launch before PSN integration was done, the fact that multiplayer is entirely dependent on them providing a service is troubling. That's how we lose games.

I can still launch Rainbow Six 3 and play multiplayer with my friends because it has the server built in and allows direct connect via IP address. You can't do that with a live service game; once the official servers are down the game becomes (partially or completely) lost media.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Successful launch and so much good will burned in a few days because of greedy MBAs proposing their "brilliant" profit guaranteed extraction strategy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

How are they even making a profit with it? Does the psn account cost money?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Might not end up making Sony any money, but I'm sure an executive is getting a well-deserved bonus off the back of that nice-looking bump in PSN account numbers.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It is free. But they can gather data, get you into their ecosystem, hopefully making it more likely you buy a playstation or other playstation published games. Eventually maybe they want to have cross progress between pc and playstation or have playstation achievements on pc, maybe their own steam like client.

Ultimately these countries are probably responsible for less than 5% of their total sales. Most of them are either tiny or poor or both. It does have countries like Egypt, Albania, Serbia, Morocco and Algeria but most of the banned countries are irrelevant in terms of sales.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They can steal your data if you're logged into a PSN account, and down the line the plan (which they don't want to admit) is to get PC players paying for a multiplayer subscription like on console.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

That data is worth fucking garbage.

Someone made an idiotic decision and cannot lose face by backtracking.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

It's clear Sony is a garbage company since at least the 2011 hack in how they conduct themselves. How they have treated so many of their studios terribly. Late implementation of 2FA. Treating people like shit with customer service if you were hacked, or need repairs. Can't implement basic features with each new console Gen. Can't be bothered to support their own goddamned handheld. On and on.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

Even before that, considering the music division put copy-protection rootkits on CDs that often broke computers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Remember when Sony promised PSN would always be free? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can't have shit these days.

I blame Shark Tank.

Love watching rich S.O.Bs kill capitalism, but hate the consequences.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I blame unhinged neoliberal capitalism

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

you basically said the same word three times there!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] hal_5700X 62 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They're non-psn countries.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (3 children)

How is PSN not in that many countries?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago

That's the question both the developers and players are asking the publisher.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/

If we find the median item on this list we get #117 which is Central African Republic with a population of 5.7 million or 0.07 % of the global population.

It would be very easy for a large multinational to ignore the smaller nations and focus their efforts on the larger markets.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not that simple. There's more factors like connectivity. Some areas of Africa is pretty much only phones.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You can play Helldivers on a mobile data connection. And besides, Steam is there.

Also lmao most of Australia, by landmass, is only phones or no internet at all. But PSN is in Australia.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 3 points 7 months ago

It's apparently in 73 countries. So it seems the number quoted here includes a lot of non-countries, such as parts of countries (e.g. South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, which has no population and is a territory of the UK).

So it's still bad, just not as bad as the post title makes it out to be.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Added Unknown country code: XD

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

TIL too. This lone source told me it's from WorldBase? Why would Steam use these? They don't even have any country codes!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why is Antarctica on the list? Is it considered a country?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because whether it is a country or not the researchers working there need an outlet. It's either games or kill each other. And the PSN isn't available.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

There is 1 imposter among us

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Antartic treaty says it's not part of any country, but I guess steam is available there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Who's gonna think about the 4 helldivers playing Helldivers 2 in Helvete?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

We are all of equal value, citizen.

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