Fuck. I have a gas stove. And it's only like 6 years old. I certainly can't afford to replace it.
this post was submitted on 04 May 2024
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Well you're as good as dead then. RIP
I know, I'm getting my affairs in order. 😢
No, you shouldn't replace your gas stove if it's new or still has life in it unless you can afford to do so and you want to upgrade to induction which is better in nearly everyway.
Yes, we should regulate gas in homes such that no new homes have gas anything in them except for in the places where it's absolutely necessary. Although I'm a fan of simply not allowing them on any new construction, I'm also okay with a carbon tax roughly equivalent to their lifetime emissions as a way for people who really want them to get them - I guess I believe choice is in this way is better than no choice as long as a premium price is attached.
This is fairly simple. Sensible people aren't trying to take away gas for no reason, we're trying to reduce the harm we cause to ourselves and our planet wherever possible especially when - again - is beneficial in nearly every measurable metric. That doesn't mean banging down doors and ripping ovens out, it means insuring that when you have to replace your current equipment you do so with non-gas because it's better for everyone and won't happen as quickly as we need it to naturally because there is huge money in convincing people gas is good/necessary/manly/better despite the damage it causes to the climate. Thank your local oil company for that propaganda.
I look forward to a fresh new round of backlash about this from angry conservatives looking for things to be mad/scared about. And no, I don't mean being mad or scared about the actual science, but rather the scientists that dare tell them their findings.
Honestly, I fucking wish the Democrats would have the balls to pass laws to regulate things like this...
Is the anger about scientists publishing or about politicians regulating? I'm happy for scientists to publish this so people can make informed decisions, but I'm angry about politicians making those decisions for people, like the upcoming ban on gas stoves in new buildings where I live.
There's something very satisfying about fire that makes it worth the increased pollution exposure, IMO. Currently I'm stuck in an apartment with an electric stove, but I used to have a house somewhere without gas mains, and I had an outdoor propane tank (which isn't that cheap) only so that I could have a gas stove. I knew a guy who took the risk of having a small indoor propane tank (illegal and dangerous) for the same reason.
Cool.
Children don't deserve to have asthma because you think "there's something satisfying about fire that makes it worth the increased pollution exposure." Though I'm glad that you believe you get to make that decision for them.
Fuck off.
Parents get to make so many decisions for their children but this is where you draw the line? Anyway, I don't have children and I'm not going to willingly give up my gas stove so that you can tell some third guy how to raise his.
Where did I say I drew a line? I'm just saying it's fucking stupid and selfish to be so upset and up in arms about potential regulations to make everyone healthier because they like fire.
You must be worn out after fighting all those straw men. Do you think "regulations" means "we're coming to take away the gas stove from your sad divorced dad studio apartment"?
tHiNk Of ThE cHiLdRen!
And when your gas filled home explodes, killing firefighters and damaging all of your neighbors property? Is that cool too? Because that just happened a few months ago near me.
I knew a guy who took the risk of having a small indoor propane tank (illegal and dangerous) for the same reason.
Cool story bro, and not at all telling.
I get that for some who have to rely on a 120v might have a bad experience cooking on a poor electric stove, but having 230v outlets and double that for high power connections, my stove is plenty powerful enough.
I would prefer flame for some things, but not so much that I'd trust the general public to not blow shit up accidentally.
I didn't say that was a good idea... The point I was trying to make is that having a gas stove really is important to many people. It's not just an "own the libs" thing.
The point I was trying to make is that having a gas stove really is important to many people
I'd agree that a lot of people might feel it's important, even when it's not, and even when they can't even express why they feel it's important.
Honestly, I fucking wish the Democrats would have the balls to pass
sorry, too busy saving the economy, ukraine, school loans, rescheduling mj, pardoned MJ incarcerated, expanding healthcare, cutting insulin costs (THIS SAVED SO MANY LIVES IT'S BONKERS), stood up for unions & labor (FIRST PRESIDENT TO EVER WALK A PICKET LINE), increased overtime for millions, ended federally subsidized discriminatory mortgage lending, went after airlines, cable companies, phone companies, concert ticket sales and hotels for their fucking ridiculous hidden fees!, started a drone industry right here in the US so we won't be caught like Russia is, developing new weapons while getting blown up; restarted microchip and solar production IN THE US, brought back net neutrality, and much more.
so you know, maybe instead of petulant whiney bitching about the regulation you didn't get, I dunno, have a sense of perspective of some fucking thing.
Especially when you contrast it to the GOP's record of legislating this year or Trump's signature victory - FUCKING US ALL BY GIVING OUR MONEY TO BILLIONAIRES WHO DON'T PAY SHIT IN TAXES.
I feel strongly that if people want to keep their gas, let them. As long as there aren't kids at home.
This shit poses the greatest risk to developing bodies.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9819315/
https://rmi.org/gas-stoves-health-climate-asthma-risk/