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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Copper sulphate is a listed "organic" fungicide despite not having any carbon atoms.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen "Organic" salt.

that doesn't have Carbon, Hydrogen or Oxygen

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no such thing as organic salt........

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even the most transgenic plant, grown in the techiest greenhouse ever cared for with the nastiest fertilizers and pesticides is organic in the most widespread and commonly used meaning of the word.

The air quotes are well deserved.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wait, what's the most widespread and commonly used meaning of the word?

Organic is a term certified by the USDA.

To use "organic" on packaging, a product must contain at least 95% organically produced ingredients.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Love a definition that uses its own word

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is a bit annoying, though "organically produced" is defined exhaustively on the website.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

We can debate what it means effectively, but the term organic in the US means something. It's a regulated term and you can't just slap different stickers on something and call it organic. So much just straight up misinformation in this thread from people too jaded, or too lazy, to look it up.

https://www.usda.gov/topics/organic

https://www.ams.usda.gov/rules-regulations/organic

Now I'm not saying that the regulated term "organic" doesn't have some other weird side effects, or that people haven't attempted to hoodwink the process, but the term itself carries the weight of regulation in the US. So it's not some silly, "Hurrr derrr Organic means Organic" thing like people are making it out to be.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Means "contains carbon" in any context other than food

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

When not talking about US food it just means living matter. Basically anything you eat is organic by the traditional definition. The USDA organic definition is honestly a joke though. Most pesticide other than the new age shit is made out of plant directives. Doesn't make it safe to consume. The range of shit they can use and do, while still calling things organic is pretty laughable. You just have to avoid a few products that are widely used today. Nitrogen fertilizer and shit like roundup.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I mean, I wouldn't want to eat inorganic food. What would that even be, pure salt?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Many different salts, not just NaCl. As well as many metals and some acids. But they all are micronutrients, you won't get any calories out of them.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

So it's a diet then.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

won't get any calories out of them

Me, an intellectual: eats a chunk of uranium

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[–] burntbutterbiscuits 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I thought that was made from ground-up plundered religious artifacts or something

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (11 children)

My definition of organic =contains carbon so = all food uless you are eating sand for some reason. Just another meaningless tag on US foods imo.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My own definition is: 30% upcharge for the same damned thing in a differently labeled package

You're paying for the label

( looking at you too, "non-GMO" 👀 )

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, no, my food's not genetically modified. It's just been developed via artificial selection for thousands of years.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

To be fair, genetic modification and selective breeding are not the same thing. It is funny how one is totally normal and the other is considered negative when they're quite similar

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

( looking at you too, “non-GMO” 👀 )

I'll let someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe carrots were never orange, as in every orange or yellow carrot you buy is GMO

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Nearly every food you could theoretically consume is a GMO. The label is intentionally misleading.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Virtually everything we eat now is GMO after countless generations of selective breeding and all that. Ever read about the wild versions of common foods? Bananas, watermelons, corn, all that stuff in their completely natural wild form is unrecognizable from the monstrosities on sale in every grocery store.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

X USDA Organic

✓ IUPAC Organic

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well it’s not made of organs…

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I for one am happy to know that the food I purchase is strictly carbon-based and doesn't contain fillers made up from ground-up Horta carcasses or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm sorry to tell you this but plants contain anorganic elements. It's less than 1% tho.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some of you need to find a local farmer and it shows.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm in nebraska. I can find all the corn you ever could want... Not much else. Got a bitchin' farmers market though.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

More likely that everyone was ignoring him, but that don’t sound as cool on twitter

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

This dude - "Are these 'organic'?"

Stall worker - "Yes. 3 dollars."

This dude - "Really?"

Stall worker - "Sir, do you want the pears or not?"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"then all the farmers clapped and this cute farmer girl asked me to come to the next barn dance with her"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

City folks just don't get it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought being organic meant no pesticides

[–] Piemanding 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It means "organic" pesticides, which are older and more dangerous to the environment.

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