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[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 year ago (11 children)

And despite security recommendations, too many IT depts still force password resets every 90 days...

And people confronted with this change their password from "p@55w0rd!1" to "p@55w0rd@2". Yep extra-secure!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

At some point most security recommendations are self-defeating.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I work in the IT section of a bank and they force a change every 30 days and can only have an 8 character password no more no less 🙃

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Seems like a job for Bobby tables

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ideally we'd all use password managers, but I'm aware 99% of peoole don't. Even with one, it's frankly a pain in the butt to be nagged about changing it. "Man, my passwords are 20 random characters. I don't need yo reset ot unless you've had a breach."

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A job I quit about 6mos ago required monthly changes. It was awful. And, yes, it absolutely led to me just incrementing a number at the end. I knew it was time to quit when I was about to hit double digit numbers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

you're saying not to hold a job for more than 10 months?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

It was a joke.

But also, holding a shitty toxic job for 10mos took a mental health toll.

But also, I don't know, in some cases that might be good advice. Since 2020 I've changed jobs every 6-10mos and I'm making triple what I made in 2019, so that's nice.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

@278 and going strong, across 7 companies. One time, just to mix things up, I used an exclamation mark instead. It was exhilerating. /s

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some IT guys have caught on to this and require 2 digits difference.

So "ThisJobSucks#11" becomes "ThisJobSucks#22"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (14 children)

How would they know how many digits changed? They don't store the password in cleartext.

Right?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

{Sitename}+{SaLt}+{yymmdd of password change} easy peasy

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I college we had to change our password every semester. Guess who added the semester number onto the end of their password. Hint: everyone.

Same as a government job that required monthly password changes. Well, at least those people had more security than the post-it note on the monitor people

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Hey, how do you know my password?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The worst is when you have a bunch of independent systems that all have their own login info, all configured by the dame IT department, all with different forced reset timers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And despite security recommendations, too many IT depts still force password resets every 90 days...

It could be for contractual or for insurance reasons. We have some contracts with government agencies that require it, and our cyberinsurance also does. Even though NIST has been recommending for years to do long passphrase + MFA and no reset unless you suspect compromise.

So yeah, the reason behind this might not be just plain incompetence.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I've had arguments with clients' IT security about this in the past where they demanded forced password resets. Citing NIST controls that insist you should avoid them was apparently insufficient.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Who still isn't using a password manager?

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The most infuriating part is when this happens while using a password from a password manager

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fact this happens is infuriating. 😣

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Then you finally do the password change, go to login and now the new password doesn't work because you copied it to clipboard and overwrote it somehow in that small time frame goddamn shit! I always win+r and put it there until I know everything is all good.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What if I were to tell you my password manager password is the most vulnerable of all?

Nobody would guess it's hunter2.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I only see ******* when you type hunter2

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should really upgrade to hunter3

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

But how did you see it? I used the spoiler tag

/s

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mine is bigboipassword123. Can't dictionary attack it cuz boi isn't in the dictionary.

[–] ImFresh3x 4 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I promise you that does not help.

I suspect a large number of these incidents are due to the password field in the login page allowing fewer characters than the field in the sign up page, so the password gets truncated. A couple of help desk meat shields have confirmed that for me, but mostly I think this because it seems to fix itself if I use a shorter password.

How short, you ask? Who tf knows! They sure as shit won't tell you! Just spend the next 20 minutes trying shit til it works, because you have nothing better to do with your time!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My company doesn't tell you what the AD policy is for changing your domain logon password but windows will just tell you that it doesn't meet the policy. What IS the password policy you ask?

Well it's uh... 🤷‍♂️

Try again!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am annoyed on your behalf.

I've had goons tell me they can't tell me the character max because of "security"

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My parents. All written down on paper in handy notebooks for anyone that breaks in. Two entire lives and everything in them just there for the taking.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

If it helps, I think we’re all in this picture at some point lol.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And that’s why I generate my passwords randomly.

Thank you Bitwarden.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

So do I. This still happens.

[–] Lucidlethargy 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ahh, so you all also shop at target online, eh?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm guessing this is american target and not Australian target

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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