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Or use a fucking password manager like Bitwarden or Keepass
I won't say where I work but we have strict password requirements including that they have to be exactly 8 characters long.
Yeah our passwords aren't very secure as we also have to change them every 90 days and if you miss the window by 3 days you have to call the IT desk to reset it which takes about 45 minutes to an hour. And in that time you basically can't get anything done.
At home I use a password manager and all my passwords are randomly generated and whenever possible 2fa is enabled.
Personally I would use a password manager for at work as well. Bitwarden can generate 8 character passwords. Easy enough to remember and if you forget it's right there on your phone.
Not sure if you're in the US. But if you are, you should leave this anonymously on the security team's desks.
> Verifiers SHOULD NOT require memorized secrets to be changed arbitrarily (e.g., periodically). However, verifiers SHALL force a change if there is evidence of compromise of the authenticator. - NIST control SP 800-63B Section 5.1.1.2
Basically a fairly widespread standard of security. All kinda of complaince you can fall out of if you do business with anyone who cares about NIST controls.
Get as many people as you can to change their password on or around the same day. 93 days later either bombard IT with simultaneous requests or maybe stagger them to eat up their resources for days.
Pretty much how it is really, we also make sure to line it up when we return from holidays.
Fun fact about our system, if you change you password on your own it restarts the clock from that day.
This is the proper way to do things (on your end, not the 8 character password at work). I also use email aliases from simplelogin in addition to strong and unique passwords. So any data breach from a site should be isolated.
I use bitwarden on my android phone and home computer. Vivaldi browser on both devices with bw integration. I also was able to portable-load Vivaldi on my work pc, so one day when I'm not too busy, I intend to regen my work passwords (everything but the domain logon is web-based) with bitwarden so I never have to worry about how many ones and exclamation points I appended to my passwords.
Now if I could only get them to replace Microsoft 365 OTPs with a smart card or RSA hardware token that'd be perfect. Especially when Teams and every other Microsoft app separately and individually decides for the nth time this week that they all need my credentials again because somebody sneezed near the work VPN server and caused the ntp to be off by a millisecond and invalidate my security certificate or... whatever the reason that happens.
I do. This still happens to me regularly. Companies love to fuck with their password algorithms way too much.