this post was submitted on 17 Apr 2024

87 points (81.3% liked)

Games

16943 readers

289 users here now

Video game news oriented community. No NanoUFO is not a bot :)

Posts.

News oriented content (general reviews, previews or retrospectives allowed).
Broad discussion posts (preferably not only about a specific game).
No humor/memes etc..
No affiliate links
No advertising.
No clickbait, editorialized, sensational titles. State the game in question in the title. No all caps.
No self promotion.
No duplicate posts, newer post will be deleted unless there is more discussion in one of the posts.
No politics.

Comments.

No personal attacks.
Obey instance rules.
No low effort comments(one or two words, emoji etc..)
Please use spoiler tags for spoilers.

My goal is just to have a community where people can go and see what new game news is out for the day and comment on it.

Other communities:

Beehaw.org gaming

Lemmy.ml gaming

lemmy.ca pcgaming

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

nanoUFO

After Palworld Was Accused of Ripping Off Pokémon, Its CEO Has Accused Other Companies of Making Palworld Clones (www.ign.com)

submitted 8 months ago by nanoUFO to c/games

24 comments fedilink hide all child comments

all 25 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] [email protected] 115 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Palworld didn't rip off Pokemon in the way these Chinese clones are ripping off Palworld, though. Like, the marketing of the clones literally say players "survive with their pals," like theyre not even trying to hide it. Palworld was pretty careful to avoid terms like "pocket monster" or "pokemon" in its marketing.

Also, not sure if this really counts as accusing anyone of anything. He is pointing out that his game is successful enough to warrant multiple companies trying to rip off his own game. Honestly, you know you've made the big leagues when your products are getting rip offs in China.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Amazing World of Gumball had to deal with a similar situation. This is how they handled it.

https://www.polygon.com/tv/2017/2/7/14524680/the-amazing-world-of-gumball-the-copy-cats

A series of Chinese cartoon shorts called Miracle Star is the culprit here. They hew pretty closely to Gumball’s animal collective comedy, with some very slight differences. For example: Instead of a kitten protagonist, they star ... a billy goat. It’s not just Miracle Star’s aesthetic that looks eerily like Gumball’s; the show also takes shots and scenes wholesale.

Fans picked up on this back in 2015, and the video above shows a direct comparison between the two. While Cartoon Network hasn’t taken any action against Miracle Star, it’s basically an open secret at this point that the Gumball lookalike exists.

It wasn’t until The Amazing World of Gumball’s newest episode, which made it online earlier this week, that Cartoon Network addressed the Miracle Star debacle more directly. An episode called “The Copycats” features a cartoon about a family remarkably like Gumball’s, made up of a mixed crowd of animals. (The one major difference? Gumball’s little sister is curiously missing from the family, which one viewer says may be a nod to China’s one-child policy.) Not only are these “copycats” very similar to the main cast, but they’re almost direct copies of the characters from Miracle Star.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

That got dark quickly

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I agree. Plus there’s a difference between ripping off and being inspired/influenced. Is palworld a Pokemon-esque game? Yes, but it’s not a rip off or clone since it’s different. Now if they gave the pals evolutions then yeah that would def be a red flag lol.

These actual clones are actually ripping off palworld.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago

The dude sounded excited that his games really really popular and that it might inspire some other cool games he might like.

Slow day at the news desk there I see.

[–] otp 20 points 8 months ago

In the days leading up to the game's release, I was flooded with ads calling Palworld "Pokemon with guns". They kind of brought it upon themselves.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Next year, we might see many...bishojo...raising games... These are incredible times.”

Uh. Let's, for the sake of discussion, hypothetically assume that 2025 is the Year of the Bishojo Raising Game.

That isn't what your game is, right? What's the connection?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Wait, your pals arent cute girls? You must be doing it wrong.

[+] [email protected] -34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How quickly they forget their origins...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

In case you are curious, the downvotes are cuz the headline was a lie. Not only did they not rip off pokemon, they are happy to see clones of their game. They want to try them all and see if any are fun to play. They love these kinds of games, after all.

[+] [email protected] -21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not only did they not rip off pokemon

Come on now

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Cool. Then Pokemon ripped off Dungeon Quest.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEYrZuzXUAAjpkB?format=jpg&name=large

If you're calling palworld a ripoff, then pokemon is a ripoff. Which puts them on par with each other at the bare minimum.

Making cute monsters and taming them is not new and just because pokemon has a bajillion mons to find similarities in, doesn't mean everything is ripping off of pokemon.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Sure, Pokémon ripped off that or whatever the first monster catching game was.

But if you're telling me any of those examples look half as much of a complete copy paste and recolor as the "designs" in Palworld, you're either arguing in bad faith or blind. Most of those examples look absolutely nothing like their supposed counterpart.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

complete copy paste and recolor as the “designs” in Palworld

If this statement was even close to factually accurate you realize that Nintendo would have sued and taken down Palworld already right? I can't be arguing in bad faith if Nintendo's litigious lawyers basically agree with my statements.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Come on now. Anyone can tell they're knockoffs and I'm sure you do as well. Just cause they're technically legally distinct enough doesn't mean they're not obvious copies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Then I'll have to refer you to this comment. And we're dead set into circular logic land. Congrats! Enjoy your stay.

Just because Pokemon was legally distinct enough from Dungeon Quest doesn't mean they're not obvious copies. What you need to realize is that there's only so many ways you can draw a "fire-based dog", "grass-based turtle", or "electric mouse" before you run into something that looks similar to some other IP.

Like I said before.

just because pokemon has a bajillion mons to find similarities in, doesn’t mean everything is ripping off of pokemon.

What you COMPLETELY miss out on... Dragon Quest is an old enough series that people who worked on the original Pokemon would have been highly influenced by the series as kids. Much like Palworld developers likely grew up on Pokemon to some extent. You're going to see similarities... that doesn't mean it a knock off... and if it was a knock off, Nintendo would have killed it long ago. Any other "belief" doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

What the hell are you talking about, there are infinite ways to draw a fire dog, Pokemon alone has like 5 of them (at least 2 of which "inspired" Pals lol) When you take into account all the kind of dogs there are and the infinite flourishes an artist could make its shocking anyone would think their design doesn't look like a rippof. One might even say thar someone is arguing in bad faith again.

Just... come on now.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just because you don't like the argument doesn't make it bad faith. Considering that 100% of pals are distinctly different enough that Nintendo cannot go after them and win is sufficient evidence that they've made enough of the "infinite flourishes" you claim to exist. Yet here you are claiming that they're ripoffs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Didn't we just go over this? You're right, we are in a loop.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago

Didn’t we just go over this? You’re right, we are in a loop.

Yup... Because the only opinion that matters is Nintendo's and a courts. Not yours. But you don't seem to recognize this.

You don't have to like it or buy the game. Not sure why people like you love to sit there and make claims that PalWorld is a problem when clearly it's not. The loop will end when you recognize that fact and move on. Stop being one of those people that backseat lawyers on behalf of a mega-corp.