I don't smoke and am completely against smoking. But this sounds like wishful thinking that has the potential to backfire spectacularly. There is a reason why many jurisdictions are deregulating banned substances. It helps to prevent the black market for concentrated and adulterated versions of the banned substance. It also helps people with addiction to seek treatment without worry of prosecution. Perhaps they should invest in better education than go for bans.
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Get fucked prohibitionists.
There will come a time when humanity wins the war on drugs, and everyone has the bodily autonomy to put what drugs they want in their own body.
And when that day happens... will you see drug users persecuting people for not being high?
Will you see prisons built for those who dare stay sober?
Will people be given felonies for being straight edge?
Will drug users militarize the police and erode our constitutional rights in a vain quest to enforce thier way of life on others?
NO
because we are not them.
You should feel fortunate we seek justice, not retribution.
Governments banning drugs just creates dangerous black markets and criminals instead of doing their job of establishing and regulating markets with medical support for addicts. Arresting drug users for using drugs is similar to arresting people for eating Doritos because some people overeat them. You can do it, but it's not going to stop people from eating Doritos it just means more people will suffer making and distributing the Doritos. Nobody is going to force you to eat the Doritos, and if you're eating too many you'll benefit by talking to a doctor not a judge.
I love it when people who don't do drugs act like they're somehow superior beings because of it. "I don't need drugs, and neither should anyone else! 😤" Stfu Karen, doing drugs is about the most human thing we humans do, and you drink coffee you insufferable human paraquat.
Meanwhile they can't function without their morning coffee otherwise it's Tylenol time to manage the headaches, meds for all the disorders we get living in a society, and a dozen dopaminergic compulsions required to compenate for this and that.
How about just remove cigarettes from grocery stores, gas stations, and all other stores where people go to buy things other than cigarettes.
Regulate tobacco like some states regulate alcohol. Have a state store and that's the only place you can buy tobacco and make it heavily taxed.
Prohibition does not work.
If they are serious about combatting smoking, they should medicalize it and treat it like an addiction.
Cigarettes don't get you drunk or high, I'm not sure it won't, especially since current adults won't be affected (in theory)
They probably just don't really care if it does or not tbh. They just want to try out the age-specific ban and the public response.
Smoking does cost society money. Where medical care is subsidised by the public; we sure should prevent people from making money of selling self destructive stuff.
IIRC in the US, it's revenue-positive for the government. Smokers tend to die earlier, and on average don't collect various old-age benefits, and that outweighs the costs.
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This was from 1989, so inflation will have changed the dollar values, but I doubt that it's changed qualitatively:
https://www.nber.org/system/files/chapters/c11584/c11584.pdf
Our simulations suggest that each median-wage male smoker in the 1920 birth cohort roughly "saves" the Social Security system $20,000, and each median-wage female smoker saves $10,000.
People shouldn't have to be treated like children just because there's public healthcare. People should be allowed to smoke, do drugs, and eat cheeseburgers if they want to.
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Now do driving after 65. Voting? 😇
Remember: it's always good to prohibit the drugs that you personally don't do.
Yes, this seems like something Britain would do.
Look, FFS, start doing synthetic nictotine products already. Tobacco is inherently cancerous, cigarettes are localized pollution... get rid of those by all means but let people have their recreational nicotine. Put it in beer for all I care.
The format is intolerable.
You cannot mark someone as forever ineligible, from birth, for what others do freely. It's nothing like age limits. It's second-class citizenship.
I don't mind people smoking as long as I don't smell it. The second I smell it, I'm pissed my kid has to join in on your addiction.
If that isn't possible, maybe we should do a total ban.
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