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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Adjacent question: is there a compelling reason to run HAOS? I run my HA setup in docker on a Proxmox CT, using Portainer/Watchtower to manage, so genuinely wondering if there would be benefits I'm missing out on.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The add-on store that’s managed and updated via the supervisor. It does the same thing as your setup, but integrates into HA nicer (automatic connectivity to HA for the containers, when they need it). If you’re happy with how your setup works then there’s no compelling reason to switch.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can't restore a backed-up config in docker, also no add-ons.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Interesting about the backups bit. The functionality's there in the UI to create backups, so kinda weird you can't restore them. Like most docker containers, my HA config sits on a bind mount, and I just back that up nightly.

When you say add-ons, are there specific ones I'm missing out on? I have HACS, and frequently install all manner of integrations and front-end Lovelace add-ons.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Add-ons" is a separate category of thing, and more substantial than integrations/Lovelace stuff. If you haven't noticed any missing you're probably fine. But some popular ones are DuckDNS and Mosquitto Broker.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Ah, got it. Thanks - this makes a lot of sense now. Looks like it's so the HAOS Supervisor container can manage all the things that, in theory, I already handle myself with external tools.

Cheers!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Usually, the reason is HACS

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sorry - not sure what you mean? I use HACS in my setup. Are there extra features in HACS when running HAOS?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Not HACS - Addons. The ones that run in containers

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Whew! I think I dodged the bullet. Upgraded today and it boots just fine. Running HAOS in a vm, so that might be the reason...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

HAOS on bare metal x86_64 here. No issues to report

[–] evo 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm running 12.2 on "unsupported hardware" (x86 proxmox) without a problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

So am I, no hiccups whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

No problem here for either of mine - kvm for one, Raspberry pi 3b for the other.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How did the test suite miss this?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My guess is the massive amount of hardware variations, you would need a house full of devices to test all the different options

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

This is why we hear about this same thing happening with Linux distros all the time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Lol, and the project is slowly trying to force everyone to use it. I'll continue to use core in a venv and manage my own OS, thanks.