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Suicide is on the rise for young Americans, with no clear answers (www.bbc.com)

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[-] [email protected] 105 points 3 months ago

... No clear answers?

I'm 35. I make enough to pay bills but a home is still out of reach for me and my gf, together we pull about 175k

When I was 21, expensive drafts were $5/16oz. Cheap ones were $1. Rent was ~$750/mo, utils and stuff brought you close to $1000. I worked 40 hrs a week in a kitchen making $15/hr. I got free food the burritos there were $9.99, fair at the time.

Today, someone makes the same wage, gets 12 hrs a week, the food isn't free when you work there a burrito is $17.99, and the apt I was in is $1750/mo

I wanted to die plenty in my 20s. I can only imagine the bleak hellhole they see and exist in.

...the clear answer is more opportunity, more money, more education, less burdens.

What the fuck happened? Like it was bad for me and my friends. Our parents pitied us. But now a draft beer is line $11 for 10 oz. A cheap McDonald's order is $15.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

It's clickbait. There was an article like this a while ago about teens and suicide and they were like, "we have no idea why this is happening!", even though for years people were saying social media was harming teens.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Social media is not the cause. There are so many problems that young people are helpless to do anything about. Congress's desire to restrict and censor internet access for minors has to be more impactful than social media itself.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I guess we should say that it's an "intensifier". If you get bullied at school, it no longer stays at school. If there's gossip or someone does something embarrassing it's no longer forgotten, but quickly plastered all over the Internet. I graduated high school in 2004, so I didn't have to deal with any of this.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

even though for years people were saying social media was harming teens.

And that article, had you bother to read it, pointed out that there was plenty of conflicting evidence as to whether social media was the cause, and warned that by mindlessly blaming social media because it is easy might lead us to overlook the real culprit.

But good on you for demonstrating it's point.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

This comment is clickbait if you think social media is only bad for teens

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

It definitely has negative effects for everyone, but teens/tweens are the most susceptible to it.

[-] [email protected] 76 points 3 months ago

"no clear answers" 🤦

[-] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago

That's how you know that no one important is invested in finding a solution.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

We tried nothing and we're all out of ideas.

[-] xmunk 54 points 3 months ago

It can't be the soul crushing capitalism, commoditization of everything (love included), and isolation guys, right? It's definitely not our corporate profits.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago

Can't be added on with multiple "Once in a generation" natural disasters happening on a yearly basis with temp records breaking yearly, nations with the power to demolish the world rattling sabers over a fight that's been going before we were born, zero chance of moving upwards in the crushing capitalism, all the while the leadership is fighting over identity politics instead of acknowledging any of the problems. Surely none of those are add on factors.

[-] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I think it mostly comes down to increasingly unfair distribution of wealth, which leaves people with no hope to better their standards of living.

Our civilization creates things with constantly increasing productivity, which should lead to better pay and less time spent working, and more time to live a fulfilling life. Instead, all this added wealth is funneled towards a few mindbogglingly rich individuals.

This happens with the help of a sizable fraction of the population, which has become convinced that their mediocre situation is in fact caused by even poorer and more miserable people, rather than the assholes siphoning everything and everyone from the top of their already obscene piles of riches. And there's no sign of this changing anytime soon. No wonder people are desperate.

[-] [email protected] 46 points 3 months ago

Our country sucks, what other answer do you need? The boomers fucked it up for the rest of us and now there's no joy, just constant struggle.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago

*world

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

I can't argue with that.

[-] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

I’m not even gonna post the paragraph I was gonna post lmao well done

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

[-] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago

Our society benefits those who manipulate and cheat, and punishes those who choose not to. Pretty simple

[-] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago

only true for top percentiles.

[-] xmunk 4 points 3 months ago

Nope, it's full spectrum. An asshole cashier that manages to fudge their drawer so the next shift comes up short and they get the cash in their pocket is considered "clever" for pulling one over on the rube. Arbitrary division and competition has soaked through all levels of America.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

p short and they get the cash in their pocket is considered “clever” for pulling one over on the rube.

lol. How does garbage like this get any upvotes? No one but other assholes and thieves would think this is clever. To everyone else they would be a theif.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

The only reason there's no clear answer is because it's several answers all together.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

capitalism is the answer.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

We're being robbed of stability, autonomy, and sleep. Economical demands are above our physical capability. Also the legal system is predatory. What's to live for?

Music is cool for the limited time I have where my ears belong to me. Maybe when I can afford furniture I'll be able to relax between shifts.

I'm saying all this even when I practically hit the jackpot with rent cost and work for a pretty decent company. I'll be ok but the rest of my life before this has just been a demonstration that life outside my control isn't worth anything.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Maybe because the world has become fucking shit? I could list dozens of answers and all of them combined are a clear answer.

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