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[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago (2 children)

And yet, years later, the ringleader of this one ring circus still hasn't spent a night in jail. #justice

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

And he never will. You guys need to tamper your expectations. Trump is never ever going to set foot in jail.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I believe you are correct. There is no justice for the poor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I understand that they're wildly different situations, but this is the same thing people said about Videla. Speaking of which, go watch Argentina, 1985!

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Ah, he didn't announce his SPECIAL APPEARANCE in red ink and a 45 degrees slant, did he?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He did, but the American flag in the courtroom had a gold fringe so it didn't count under maritime law.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Damn that one is tricky. He should've sent them a letter of intent to remove the flag signed in good faith before the trial. Classic blunder.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I honestly can't tell if you're quoting actual sovcit lunacy, or we're just playing Calvinball.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Sadly they are basically the same thing

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They fell victim to one of the classic blunders!

[–] ReasonablePea 25 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Wait so he's a sovereign citizen but so involved in us politics that he decided to raid the capitol? I don't understand how these guys can pick and choose which parts of being in a country they want

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

They're the little kid who thinks is always right, but grown up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Apparently it's gobblygook to me

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I hope one day someone releases the transcript and does a law review on it and tears his arguments to pieces

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

and does a law review on it and tears his arguments to pieces

I'm not sure there's much value in that.

Simplifying things, law is one of the two:

  1. Just what it is in fact. A result of the balance of power in the society. No hard connection to justice or what is right. Then sovereign citizens are of course wrong, only they are not using this meaning.

  2. Some system which allows anybody to defend themselves when they are right (that meaning personal, pun intended, sovereignty as in never being obliged to obey anyone), with them never owing anybody anything to which they hadn't agreed, etc. Irresponsible people often say this is what law is, not really meaning it. Some gullible people either believe that or think that it should be that. The former are sovereign citizens, the latter are ancaps and other natural law proponents.

For 1 - he doesn't care, for 2 - you can't.

I sympathize with that subculture, it's definitely nicer than "citizens of USSR" in Russia or "citizens of the Reich" in Germany.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

As a mod any social media post is fine by me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

prison

Lmao owned

[–] ThrowawayPermanente 8 points 7 months ago

Gobbledygook does not appear anywhere in the declaration of independance therefore I hold myself in contempt of these proceedings

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Love the America you hate. Because the America you hate is the only reason you are still alive.

  • The judge's brain, probably.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I love it when judges call them on this shit. There was a ruling where a judge made a point of how THE CAPITALIZATION OF WORDS somehow was supposed to be special, but it's not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I would have preferred a rope, but 87-months will do well enough.