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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago

Yes, but also no.

At the end of a r/Place event the palette changes, and you can only place white pixels.

So yes, you could use a bot to write it again; but no, in reality you wouldn’t be writing anything.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can’t stop getting amazed by the amount of free time humans have.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Isn't that a good thing, though? We're not all being worked to death? (I mean people are in some places, I'm just talking about Lemmy here.)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, as someone who almost died from covid + pneumonia (and my doc thinks also comorbid RSV) from rampant exposure in various residential care facilities, someone who was over-worked, exploited in a toxic work environment, burned out, and then forced out of a job from long-covid...

People acting like having free time is a bad thing/that it's admirable having work/productivity consume every waking minute can shut the hell up... That's not healthy or a good thing. I don't get how they think it's bragging to boast about how much of their limited lifespan has been given away to their employer rather than spent on something they have chosen to do out of desire.

I am proud of the hard work I did and the people I helped as a caseworker for adults with severe mental illness. But if I could go back in time, I would not have been killing myself for all those years. It's given me a new perspective on life, and I intend not to waste the rest of it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

People acting like having free time is a bad thing

I can't speak for other nations, but the US has a puritanical hangover we just can't shake. Work - and only certain kinds of work - are directly tied to morality. The hour you wake up is tied to morality (we aren't farmers dammit let me sleep until 8 or 9am!)

It's very difficult to make meaningful change to things that are intertwined with morality. You have to exert an enormous amount of effort disentangling them before you even get to work. Because you simply can't convince people to do a thing they inherently think is immoral, at least not nationwide.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

No, it means the matrix isn't running at peak efficiency

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe they are all on strike too.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can someone explain to me that is happening?

[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am not following this year's place, but last year, in the end, they removed all colours but white and so everyone was placing white. I assume this is what's happening here. And it so happened to coincide with the appearance of the huge fuck spez message

Edit: Just opened Reddit and checked place, it's as I said. Only white colour left.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't know whether I'd call that intentional. ~~Mods~~ Admins still retain and already utilized the power to wipe whatever they wish. They left the other renditions before this more or less alone (to my knowledge), to be overwritten by users during the natural course of things.

If he were that concerned about what was being written, I doubt he would wait to be certain the very last image of the finished r/place was a giant fuck-you billboard. He'd either wipe every fuck or try to end it after this one is gone so he can pretend it ended on a good note.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mods

I think you mean admins.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

To be fair, the mods of r/place are admins are they not?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair enough. I think I've had so much ire for so long over identical behavior from both groups that they've melded together in my mind

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, one group gets paid to put up with you and the other group doesn’t, so maybe disentangle that a tad lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I honestly don't think mutual respect should be predicated on whether one is being paid or not, so...I'm not sure I'm going to do that. Or at least, very loudly for reason of grammatical accuracy instead of that one.

You'd be suggesting u/awkwardtheturtle — an unstable, camping powermod with a habit of pinning their own wildly sexist comments to the top of every thread and then insta-banning anyone who had a problem, whose shittiness caused a whole petition about it — should be ok, actually, because they're not (officially) paid, and that I should do whatever strikes my fancy here as well.

If any person doesn't want the stress of abiding by the social contract, they really shouldn't be interacting with others, but instead they deliberately accepted a position of power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I honestly don't think mutual respect should be predicated on whether one is being paid or not, so...I'm not sure I'm going to do that.

I'm not sure where respect vs. disrespect figures in this discussion. Are you saying that removing comments/banning is inherently disrespectful?

You'd be suggesting u/awkward the turtle — a user whose habit of pinning their own wildly sexist comments to the top of every thread and then insta-banning anyone who had a problem caused a whole petition about it — should be ok, actually, because they're not (officially) paid, and that I should do whatever strikes my fancy here as well.

I did not say or suggest anything of the sort. Please show me where you are getting that idea.

If any person doesn't want the stress of abiding by the social contract, they really shouldn't be interacting with others, but instead they deliberately accepted a position of power.

I don't even know what we're talking about anymore. Being a mod or an admin is not about "the social contract." It's about enforcing rules either as a paid employee of the site or as an unpaid community volunteer. Being a jerk is just being a jerk, regardless of what position you're in as you act like a jerk. I just don't see the relevance here unless you're trying to claim every action taken by mods/admins against a user (such as removals/bans) is somehow violating the social contract. But seeing as that is a ridiculous assertion I'm going to assume that is not what you're saying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think we're talking slightly to the left of each other, yeah. I think if it was intended as a casual joke, it didn't come off that way to me, especially coming as it did in response to my remark that both groups had a near-identical reputation for acting shitty.

Banning someone is just banning them, we agree. The logic I took from that was that, though both admins and mods could be ass, only one side was paid not to be ass and that fact alone should be reason to separate them.

Which obviously I'm never not going to fight about, because it leads to stuff like

• Bezos: revolting person, paid to look after his employees but makes them piss in bottles because he's hiding a piss kink.

• Political/religious group of your choice, every abusive parent, etc.: good people, being utterly shit to everything around them til they blessedly die is more of a hobby.

The saddest part is this is a completely believable position for an internet stranger to take, so I just went ahead and believed that.

The context also probably comes off WAY differently if you happen to have been a mod yourself, e.g. implied wartime flashbacks I hopefully never have to relate to.

Being a mod or an admin is not about "the social contract." It's about enforcing rules either as a paid employee of the site or as an unpaid community volunteer. Being a jerk is just being a jerk, regardless of what position you're in as you act like a jerk. I just don't see the relevance here.

I would argue that it is about that. Your ability to inspire confidence in and work with the people you're supposed to be moderating hinges in part on your ability to act fairly and decently.

80% of us are here because the CEO of Whatever Platform couldn't do that. Reddit still works. My old boss lost her entire workforce in a day sans one person because she couldn't manage that, even though she was technically able to run a store without hitting bankruptcy. Perfectly kingly rulers have died because they were pieces of shit.

Not discounting that modding a large community seems a horrendous experience, that doing that unpaid is probably wrong, and that trolls don't reproduce the way zombies do.

I am saying if you want power at all, it's to everyone's benefit that you know how to handle whoever's at your mercy. It's implied in the job

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Your ability to inspire confidence in and work with the people you're supposed to be moderating hinges in part on your ability to act fairly and decently.

Right but this isn't the workplace or a regular social interaction. Most users do not know each other or keep track. Hell 99.99999% of my (former) community probably had no idea I was a mod. The relationship just isn't there to even exercise a social contract "as a mod." It's all hyper individual moments and one bad mod interaction is usually enough to sour someone against all mods. It's an impossible game to play. So I just tried to enforce the rules as best I could, as the community asked me to do, and stay out of flame wars in my own backyard. I explained my reasoning when asked, which usually led to me being called a slur or something similar. So this ideal you're asking for - which I don't even really disagree with - does not and will not take place, unfortunately.

This doesn't even touch the issue of people who swear they were "banned for literally no reason" and then run around reinforcing the reputation of "mods are power tripping jannies who hate free speech."

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They removed all colors but white from the selection, so the massive number of bots would try to update something, but only paint white instead, doing the wipe for them.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

only white squares can be placed now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@rImITywR Oh is that what happened? I thought it was a complete reset. Making it so only white tiles can be placed makes it even worse imo.

@plushycat @Dr_Wu

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is how /r/place always ends. Reddit takes a snapshot of the final canvas, then switches everyone over to placing only white tiles.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wonder if they'll share the final snapshot.😆

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Oh it'll make all the news. Spez's attempt to distract (and drive traffic) is just going to attract more attention to the issue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think investors care if the image says "fuck spez". I mean, whoever is dumb enough to "invest" in reddit probably doesn't know that spez is the same dude trying to sell them the idea of investing in reddit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I’m willing to bet they’ll care. When your community is vocal enough about such an issue to crowd out others? Yeah, that’s not a good sign for their investment. And it’s all directed at a single person.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You know it’s technically a crime, right?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Only if it's on purpose! I just love reddit sooooo much!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Giving it the hug of death, eh?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

If you get caught.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

OJ can beat murder charges, I can beat some cyber crime charges. If the IP address doesn't fit, you must acquit.

[–] darcy 10 points 1 year ago

ooh a minor cybercrime ooh so scary...

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haha, looking forward to the replay… 🍿

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure they've been spending the last week thinking of a way to recap this without showing the full thing, such as just focusing on specific sections instead of showing a time-lapse of the the entire canvas. Similarly I'd be surprised if they released the pixel placement data set this time without major edits

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Some people say the canvas is bigger this year. Idk if that's true (I honestly can't remember what happened in 2022), but if it is that's probably their plan - make the canvas big enough so the details don't show up (or aren't obvious) when showing the entire thing.

If that's not true, well, please don't shoot me.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It came and went almost as fast as me

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's sad but that is tradition as far as I know.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Is it possible to use a bot to write it again and again ?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

See those bots next year!

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