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Opinion - What are your thoughts on password managers? Do you use one? Would you recommend it to others? (lemmy.ca)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

What are my thoughts on a password manager?

I think it’s both a good thing, and a crutch. I feel the fact that most services are rendered unusable without an account is sad, and with the 100’s of accounts one is expected to have a password manager is sadly needed if you can’t memorize a password or can make passwords with a consistent pass phrase.

Do I use one?

Nope, I have a password system which is good enough for most accounts that’s always more than 7 character long and unique for each account without being lost to me. The only time it has failed as when my work decided to have us change our passwords every quarter, and I ran out of password ideas.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don't use them. I see this as a putting all eggs in one basket strategy, if my master password was lost, hacked, hosting company shutdown, or for whatever reason refuse to do business with me, my entire life would be screwed.

Instead I use long passwords made of words, and for each site it will be a few letters off. They're easy for humans to remember because how similar they are, but due how hash works they are equivalent to unique passwords to hackers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hashing only works if the website stores their passwords correctly. If a single website you use doesn't hash passwords correctly, and gets their database leaked, then your passwords will all be leaked. Changing a few characters per site may help a bit, but it shouldn't be relied on.

Also, if you're worried about the host shutting down, you should try bitwarden. It's completely open source, and you can self host it if you want.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Changing even a single letter will completely scramble your password with hash, so for all intents and purpose it is equivalent to a unique password

Though I do admit it can get a bit tedious, I'll definitly look into self-hosting, thanks for the recommendation

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

I do not trust password managers. There's a saying that goes 'do not put all of your eggs in one basket' and that's what I don't do. Mobile, Desktop, whatever, I don't use a single password manager. It wasn't long ago that a password management company was compromised, right? What are the odds that similar circumstances could happen on another password management company? It'd be a disaster.

Whatever happened to just simply having a notepad program/app and documenting your passwords onto there?

Ironic to the contrary, I've caught myself using browsers such as chrome to save my passwords for easier log in. But that's simply out of my decaying memory due to age, not necessarily because I have a bias with Google and I trust them with everything. I still don't trust them with everything.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

I don't know how someone can remember secure passwords without a password manager.. My password manager 10 years ago was basically a text file. Moving to Bitwarden from LastPass the only thing I miss is easily creating a folder when saving a new credential.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

If you're not using a password manager then you're mostly likely 1 data breach away from not knowing how many other accounts of yours have been compromised.

They're so incredibly easy to use, they're all basically free, and they are essential IMO. I personally use Bitwarden, before that was LastPass until they first got rid of any reason to use the subscription, only to then lock multi-device use behind the subscription (oh and they got bought by LogMeIn, who are a garbage company). Bitwarden is better in every way, so it was a win. Happily paying for Bitwarden, and would recommend it to everyone.

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