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[–] drascus 104 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I always think it's interesting when I read these stories. No matter how bad it gets. No matter how many red flags are raised no one is going to do a single thing. Our governments are completely failing us by doing nothing useful.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

Europe's governments are doing a pretty tight job, I feel personally. Actually a LOT of proper handling of issues. I'm surprised over the decades, honestly. I voted no to EU back then, but now I'd see it as an obvious yes, even if this or that cunt got rich in the process. It's still a sane fucking system, it's just under attack from organized trolls with nukes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Part of the problem is that our atmosphere and oceans are shared across the planet. Stop fishing one spot? Another country will poach the fish. Stop buying oil/coal from one country and they just sell it to another.

I'm not trying to justify not doing anything. When it comes to our oceans and atmosphere we will need a global effort but localized efforts can still help and will teach us what is effective.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

But, but, what about the shareholders? /s

[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

"puzzled and concerned?" Like they're surprised about this thing called global warming they've already been talking about for the last 20+ years?

TL;DR

Abraham suspects the main cause of the trend is climate change, with some natural ocean processes that aren’t well understood playing a role, as well.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You miss understand.

It's like saying if we double the weight of our go-kart we will go twice as fast. But instead of going twice as fast they went 50 times as fast. Then every says "that's fucking weird why did it do that?"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

You mister understands.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Every climatologist and entomologist I personally know have been low key shitting themselves for the last eight years and telling everyone they know not to have kids.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Everyone is puzzled. What on Earth could have caused this? The answer to the mystery keeps eluding scientists!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh the scientists know, but the billionaires are spending a lot of money to convince 40% of the population otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

You don't have to fool all of the people all of the time...

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's going to be an entire year of

"How many weather records did we break today? Two, three?"

"Five records broken today. It's been a rough day."

"Five?! That's got to be a record."

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"They've only been tracking for decades, don't believe their lies. They just want to tax and control you. Volcanoes exist so it is impossible for carbon to even be bad. Its just a warm year, jeez people really forget the weather can have ups and downs. I wouldn't mind every winter being warm anyway"

-your local climate change denier

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Almost didn't see the quotation marks man

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

We'll get massive methane outgassing from Siberia before we hit that point, and once that happens we are just a few centuries away from being Venus.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


“It’s not just an entire year of record-breaking ocean temperatures, but it’s the margin it’s breaking them by — it’s not even close to what the previous record was,” said Brian McNoldy, a senior research associate at the University of Miami Rosenstiel School of Marine, Atmospheric, and Earth Science.

The data used to measure these trends dates back more than 40 years and comes from networks of monitoring buoys and robotic devices designed to help meteorologists make weather forecasts.

Some of the largest sea surface temperature anomalies are in the Atlantic and off the Horn of Africa, where the hurricanes that rattle the East Coast of the United States often start.

What’s more, the National Weather Service’s Climate Prediction Center says that there is a 62% chance of a La Niña —  which is associated with active and damaging hurricane seasons —  developing in late spring.

High sea surface temperatures can contribute to more intense coastal rainstorms, as well, Abraham said, by helping to build a more moist and hot atmosphere.

Warm waters caused some of the worst bleaching events ever observed in Florida and the Caribbean Sea, with stressed corals turning white and expelling the photosynthetic algae that lives in their tissue.


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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I think there's a misunderstanding here with some people. Climate change is ~~one of the~~ a significant underlying cause, yes, but the observed temperature rise is too high to be from just climate change. The article isn't saying "damn if only there was some global phenomena scientists had identified decades ago", it's saying that global warming alone isn't enough to cause this -- and there must be other factors at play we're not understanding.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

No, the article clearly says the main cause is climate change.

Abraham suspects the leading cause of the trend is climate change, with some natural ocean processes that aren’t well understood playing a role, as well.

It's not one of the causes it's the leading cause. This is to say that if global warming didn't exist, the sea temperature event would also not exist.

Your comment is wrong, and you should delete it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Human-caused climate change is likely playing a role, researchers said, but is probably not the only factor. Climate models predict a steady rise in sea surface temperatures, but not this quickly, and ocean surface temperatures also fluctuate and can be affected by natural climate variability, including patterns such as El Niño and La Niña.

So scientists don’t yet know precisely why sea surface temperatures have climbed so high.

The article is pretty damn clear that there's something else going on, and it isn't only climate change. Your own quote says "with some natural ocean processes that aren’t well understood playing a role, as well".

My point is not that climate change isn't playing a big role or the main role here. My point is that there's something else that's also going on, and it's there's way too many comments saying "it's climate change lmao". The entire thesis of the article is that something beyond climate change is also raising temperatures.

I'll edit my comment to make it clear that climate change is likely the major cause, but I'm not going to delete a comment that's trying to reinforce what the article is actually saying. As an engineer I consider it part of my job to make it clear what science news is actually saying. I'm no climate scientist, but I would prefer for people to actually listen to what the climate scientists are saying. And they're saying it isn't only global warming.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Human-caused climate change is likely playing a role, researchers said, but is probably not the only factor.

Whut? I stopped here. Because it is the only factor!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Typical media

Scientists: "IT'S GLOBAL WARMING!" Media: "Scientists are puzzled"

Fuck this world we've created for ourselves.

[–] drascus 0 points 8 months ago

yeah headline should have been "told ya so"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

So you feel bad if republicans ignore science in regards to, let's say, Covid, but if the science doesn't fit your world view you feel okay to ignore it yourself?

A tad ~~hypocratic~~ hypocritical, no?

[–] Enkers 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Minor correction:

It's hypocritical. Hippocratic is the oath that doctor's take to do no harm.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago