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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

ED Theme:Mori Calliope「Go-Getters」Huh? It must suck to have your professional identity be owned by an agency.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In principle? Sure. But Calli is familiar with both sides of the coin and considering how she talks about her current career and all the opportunities she got since joining I don't think she minds that much.

Plus, she gathered a huge following and is building a web of professional contacts so even if she decides to quit, she'd be in a much better position than before Holo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

One can imagine they would retaliate against anyone who worked with her when they didn't want them to.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I mean... we're not talking about Nijisanji here. Seriously though, she's signed with Universal Music Japan and has a growing number of contacts within the more independent music scene in Japan. Going after them would potentially hurt their other talents who also get access to them this way.

Not saying that's impossible, it's just Cover hasn't really shown any signals of being vindictive towards their employees so far, former or otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What about that Taiwan business?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What about it?

They defended both Coco and Haachama, and didn't give into antis' demands (hell, Cover was willing to cut the whole Chinese branch instead of firing them). Some people were angry about the timeout of both talents (pretty normal approach to try and let the drama die down) since they thought they were being punished.

Haachama is still happily with the company and Coco quit way later since she wanted to focus on different content (including face cam streams). Other talents still mention Coco without issues and Coco never talked about any grievances towards Cover (which tends to happen when relationship is less than amicable).

The biggest bomb from the whole situation was already mentioned loss of Holo CN, though apparently at least some of the talent there was involved in the harassment so it may have been the right choice. Well that, and antis would make it hard to function there anyway.

As messy situation as it was they handled it relatively well and with each new issue they seem to be constantly improving (compare very early problems like Mel's first manager, to CN drama to Rushia's termination).

Are they perfect? I mean... they're a corporation so the best I can say is: they seem do be doing as decent as they can.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't believe for a second she decided to quit. It makes for a good story, and we may never know the truth, like whatever happened with Rushia.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean... we can go based on what she herself said or based on our feelings - I'll stick to the former.

They also defended Rushia when her drama started btw. Termination came after internal investigation found out she leaked info (something I think was confirmed by the dude who was suppose to get it? I might be misremembering this part).

Don't take me wrong, I'm not saying you have to believe everything company says or think they are the "goodest boys who can do no wrong". Not at all.

What I am saying is that based on the limited insight we do have there's no reason to think they are super evil. They might be but there's no serious evidence for that that I know of.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't think they're super evil, just normally evil. With the amount of leverage they have on their star workers, I don't trust that they haven't and won't abuse it in the future.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They are a corporation so we definitely shouldn't take them on their word I just don't see much value in coming up with imaginary abuse "just in case". You don't have to trust to not make up stuff without evidence.

As for their leverage... it sure is there to some extent but it's not absolute. As much draw as Hololive as a brand has, viewers stay for specific talents. Every time one of them leaves (whether it's graduation or termination) they bring some chunk of their audience with them - it's not like they are completely dependent on the company.

Edit: As for actual abuse, that was the case with Mel and her first manager if I recall correctly. Dude was fired and they changed their rules to better protect the talents after that. That was the early days, back when they neither knew what they were doing yet nor had a proper staff to deal with such problems. It's still a screw up, but apparently they did learn from it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You mean like literally every record label?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They don't own the appearance your fans are familiar with. You get to keep being the same person even if you leave them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Not the appearance, but definitely all the music. Not too sure about personality, especially in cases of stuff like idol groups. I would also assume that the ones under Hololive fully knew that they own nothing they do when they signed up, especially not the avatar created for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

That's a fucked up way to work.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

That... did not look great.