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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What about that Taiwan business?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What about it?

They defended both Coco and Haachama, and didn't give into antis' demands (hell, Cover was willing to cut the whole Chinese branch instead of firing them). Some people were angry about the timeout of both talents (pretty normal approach to try and let the drama die down) since they thought they were being punished.

Haachama is still happily with the company and Coco quit way later since she wanted to focus on different content (including face cam streams). Other talents still mention Coco without issues and Coco never talked about any grievances towards Cover (which tends to happen when relationship is less than amicable).

The biggest bomb from the whole situation was already mentioned loss of Holo CN, though apparently at least some of the talent there was involved in the harassment so it may have been the right choice. Well that, and antis would make it hard to function there anyway.

As messy situation as it was they handled it relatively well and with each new issue they seem to be constantly improving (compare very early problems like Mel's first manager, to CN drama to Rushia's termination).

Are they perfect? I mean... they're a corporation so the best I can say is: they seem do be doing as decent as they can.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't believe for a second she decided to quit. It makes for a good story, and we may never know the truth, like whatever happened with Rushia.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean... we can go based on what she herself said or based on our feelings - I'll stick to the former.

They also defended Rushia when her drama started btw. Termination came after internal investigation found out she leaked info (something I think was confirmed by the dude who was suppose to get it? I might be misremembering this part).

Don't take me wrong, I'm not saying you have to believe everything company says or think they are the "goodest boys who can do no wrong". Not at all.

What I am saying is that based on the limited insight we do have there's no reason to think they are super evil. They might be but there's no serious evidence for that that I know of.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't think they're super evil, just normally evil. With the amount of leverage they have on their star workers, I don't trust that they haven't and won't abuse it in the future.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They are a corporation so we definitely shouldn't take them on their word I just don't see much value in coming up with imaginary abuse "just in case". You don't have to trust to not make up stuff without evidence.

As for their leverage... it sure is there to some extent but it's not absolute. As much draw as Hololive as a brand has, viewers stay for specific talents. Every time one of them leaves (whether it's graduation or termination) they bring some chunk of their audience with them - it's not like they are completely dependent on the company.

Edit: As for actual abuse, that was the case with Mel and her first manager if I recall correctly. Dude was fired and they changed their rules to better protect the talents after that. That was the early days, back when they neither knew what they were doing yet nor had a proper staff to deal with such problems. It's still a screw up, but apparently they did learn from it.