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[–] [email protected] 121 points 6 months ago (52 children)

This is so strange. How can people have so little empathy for the lives of innocent people?

[–] [email protected] 92 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Israeli citizens are subjected to daily propaganda (e.g. "there are no civilians in Gaza", "Hamas is ISIS", "Hamas wants to murder all jews", etc.) to legitimize their fascistic policies.

There are a lot of parallels to the US short/y after 9/11.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's part of Israel's propaganda to make this about religion to invoke irrational "War on Terror" sentiments in people who haven't looked into it that deeply.

In reality, they're dehumanizing and targeting all Palestinian Arabs, including Christians. Hence the shooting up and bombing of churches along with everything else.

Some of them are Kahanists but I don't think religion figures into their motives as a wider group except for scapegoating purposes.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You just need to convince people that the "innocent people" are not people

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Well to quote the Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”

They think Palestinians are subhuman. Israel has become the evil it once fled.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It amazes me officials can speak like this, yet there are also the widespread reports of organ theft (esp. skin and corneas removed from bodies). Even some reports of blond babies being kidnapped from their families because they're assumed not to be Arab. Where is the cognitive dissonance?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A lot of people's hearts are too full of hatred to hold anything else.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

5% of the population is psychopathic. Folks forget this stat. They also forget that moral competence exists on a spectrum, so that even regular people are capable of great evil, especially in service to their religion.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's only a genocide if the west disagrees with it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Genocide has a pretty strict definition.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

But yet the West refuses to apply it to Gaza, which clearly qualifies...

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago (12 children)

All religions are shit. Humanity really needs to shed this primitive baggage already.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago (3 children)

It's not about religion. It's about settler colonialism.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

A bunch of terrorists

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (4 children)

All the righties in any other situation would be screaming that protesters blocking a road should be run over.

I don't really agree but perhaps we should respect their wishes this one time. 🤔

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[–] anticurrent 21 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The media want us to believe that the Problem with Israel is the far right government, while in reality it is the whole fucking Nation.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I have known a number of actual Israelis. The majority just wants to live peaceful lives.

This is definitely the MAGA side.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

The polls show that Israelis still overwhelmingly support what's happening in Gaza.

They seem to believe that the only way to live in peace is to kill all Arabs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

The majority just wants to live peaceful lives.

Problem is what do we define "peaceful lives". You and I think it just means being able to go about our daily lives and just that, but Israelis have been drowning in propaganda. It's like saying "Americans just want peaceful lives right after 9/11/" Sure, but what they think will get them their peaceful lives is an armed invasion and genocide. It was a popular enough view to get Bush reelected.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

If they allow it to continue to happen then they also share blame.

If you despise the infamous Nazi prision guards, you need to despise the Israeli that does not speak/act against genocide.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

It's really not. It's incredibly rare for a whole population to agree on anything.

Chances are these are their equivalent of MAGA.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I suspect every country has their MAGA. And the problem is when it gets to big.

I think when people feel survival precarity, its easy to get into their head they have to hoard what they got from the Others.

That figured pretty largely into the story of Sodom, it didn't end well, albeit by deus ex machina.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

The problem also exists when the middle is content, asleep, or paid off.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Can anyone provide further information?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago

Kerem Shalom crossing: Israeli protesters hold up aid trucks to Gaza

TLDR: According to Israelis all Palestinians are Hamas so they're justified in killing them through starvation.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A "rave" in the barest sense of the word. That's got to be the shittiest "rave" I've ever seen in my life, and I was barely coherent or intelligible through most of them.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

That's not a rave. That's fascists celebrating preventing aid for people who they hate because they believe in different skydaddies

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