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TSMC plans to build second Arizona chip plant for 3nm process (www.fierceelectronics.com)

submitted 2 years ago by Varyk to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why build water heavy industry in Arizona?

[–] Varyk 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Arizona has access to a lot of the larger rivers like the Colorado, so they can get water pretty easily, and then at least when I was in Arizona, I knew a business owner from China who opened their company there because of the relatively low tax rates. But they're not super low from what I remember. Let me check. Yeah combined corporate tax rate of over 9%, which is apparently the 19th of the US for corporate tax rates.

Water access is there, there's obviously tons of super cheap land for development, and the corporate tax rates aren't so bad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

The water is there but already overpromised to existing stakeholders. Building thirsty new industries in a dry state just doesn't make any sense to me.

[–] Varyk 4 points 2 years ago

Oh, and it looks like they have low seismic activity, which is important for such delicate precise manufacturing.

Arizona is trying to make itself the semiconductor center of the US.

Here are their own stated advantages: https://www.azcommerce.com/industries/manufacturing/semiconductor-advantages/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

lol about that https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Tech/Semiconductors/TSMC-delays-U.S.-chip-plant-start-to-2025-due-to-labor-shortages

[–] Varyk 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It is pretty funny that you think an expected and predicted timeline while opening a second factory is a bad omen for US chipmaking.

China gets all of their most advanced software and hardware designs for chip manufacturing from US tech. That's been cut off now.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The fact that you genuinely believe that is the height of comedy.

[–] Varyk 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe that's why I laugh whenever I see your propaganda

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Looks more like seething and coping to me.

[–] Varyk 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Given that those are your only two techniques of debate, that's not surprising.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've got nothing to seethe and cope about, I'm not the shill for the burger empire here. 😂

[–] Varyk 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you are referring to the US, then yes, you are clearly shilling elsewhere.

This is just a guess, but it could be for the dictatorship that you keep posting false data articles and articles about.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

if you mean factual articles about a thriving democracy then sure

[–] Varyk 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yup, that's what I mean. That's why I post independently verified articles in response to your silly spin pieces.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We can see your post history dummy.

[–] Varyk 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's the point. Whenever someone sees one of your silly comments and thinks " well that can't be true," there will be one of my verifiable responses letting them know that they're right and the things you post are in fact, lies, or at the least, distorted half truths.

A little bit of knowledge, and all that.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, a little knowledge would certainly do you some good. Thing about reality though is that it catches up with you sooner or later. And even the most propagandized people such as yourself are gonna be forced to engage with it soon enough. Enjoy being smug while you can kiddo, life's gonna get hard for you in the near future.

[–] Varyk 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow this is just like your articles, where you make things up without a knowledge basis and then make predictions that work out for your point of view without any evidence to back it up!

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The beauty of the whole thing is that I don't have to convince you of anything. Your shithole country is about to go into a recession, and it might already be in one. And then you're going to have to deal with that fact. So, keep it up while you can kiddo.

[–] Varyk 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you're talking about the US, they've been in a recession since covid-19. Doesn't seem to have caused any new problems, which does surprise me.

You're right, though, the fact that the US economy is improving and growing all forms of infrastructure despite being in two recessions in a bit over a decade is beautiful in a way, I guess.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yup, that's exactly what's happening. US economy is improving and growing, nothing to worry about at all. Best of luck to you.

[–] Varyk 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I do appreciate the concession, thank you.

And I agreev with you, it is pretty great that us economy and their infrastructure is growing. I don't know how they're going to deal with the kids shooting kids thing, But apparently US recessions only affect their toilet paper supply for a couple months.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

meanwhile in the real world https://infrastructurereportcard.org/

[–] Varyk -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is this that "seething and coping" you're always talking about?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I'm really coping with the fact that US infrastructure is literally falling apart. It really kills me inside.

[–] Varyk -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, that's the entire point of the green new deal.

Interesting that even with such bad infrastructure, Taiwan prefers to partner with the US rather than the human-rights abusing country you champion.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago

Ah yes, how's that green new deal going there. Last I checked nothing of substance has come out of it.

Meanwhile, it's pretty hilarious that you're surprised that US groomed politicians partner with US. Just imagining the freak out in US if China started doing this sort of thing in say Hawaii. Yet, despite all that, DPP is polling at all time low and it's very likely that KMT will be back in power next year at which point talks of peaceful repatriation will restart. Then you'll really have something to seethe and cope about.

Wikileaks - TSAI ING-WEN COMMENTS ON DPP TURMOIL (2005): https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/05TAIPEI4870_a.html
Wikileaks - DPP CHAIRPERSON TSAI ING-WEN ON CHALLENGES FACING PARTY AND U.S. ARMS SALES (2008): https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08TAIPEI892_a.html
Wikileaks - DIRECTOR'S FAREWELL CALL ON DPP CHAIR TSAI ING-WEN (2009): https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09TAIPEI754_a.html

And the only human rights abusing country here is the US. The country that keeps migrant children in cages on the border, has the highest incarceration rate per capita in the world, operates a torture camp on Cuban soil that it annexed, steals resources from occupied land in Syria, and that massacred over 6 million people around the world with its war on terror.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

probably a good thing to offshore some of their manufacturing capability

[–] Varyk 0 points 2 years ago

Oh yeah, and the US will make sure Taiwan has everything they need to set up shop here.