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There's a meme being debated right now that says McDonald's workers in Denmark make $22 U.S. per hour plus they have 6 weeks of vacation.

Is this accurate? U.S. McDonald's workers make much less than this.

Can you work at a fast food place like McDonald's and have a decent standard of living?


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Comfortable_Put7812 at 2024-02-14 09:53:41+00:00 ID: kqe1xz2


Full-time employees at McDonald's in Denmark make about $44,000 a year – which roughly translates to just over $21 an hour – and they also get additional perks, including six weeks of paid vacation. As pointed out by fact-checking website Snopes, a 2019 annual report for McDonald's Denmark notes that McDonald's workers are paid 373,000 kroner a year – which according to the website, converts to about $43,954.41 per year or 21.13 an hour.

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Oculicious42 at 2024-02-14 12:44:44+00:00 ID: kqeb3yp


You don't have to explain yourself we all know about the politics of minimum wage in the US for some reason

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Affectionate_Ice_945 at 2024-02-14 12:11:14+00:00 ID: kqeamfd


McDonald’s food is also of a much higher quality in Denmark than in the US 😅

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Mikkelet at 2024-02-14 01:44:42+00:00 ID: kqbp54f


Due to Denmark's high cost of living, 22 USD/hour isn't that much, but I think the argument in that debate is more to rebute the claim that increasing US employees' salary would cause the burger prices to skyrocket. However the pricing between the two countries is afaik pretty comparable, so McDonald's US can definitely afford to increase their salaries. Just checked a big Mac index online, and the put Denmark and the US at the same price!

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Listeria08 at 2024-02-14 03:35:14+00:00 ID: kqc5eua


And McD wages is a poetic place to bring the Big Mac index into use;(

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Matchbreakers at 2024-02-14 03:22:53+00:00 ID: kqc3pok


I think another to add to that is that the cost of living is not that much higher. Numbeo puts the numbers for Denmark at 75.17 and the US at 72.9. and others have a similar disparity.

So on an average wage the US citizen can buy more than a Dane, but the McDonalds wage in Denmark is a lot closer to the average wage of Denmark than the US McDonalds wage is to the US average.

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thebluwhale98 at 2024-02-14 03:53:31+00:00 ID: kqc7wjl


I think a Big Mac might actually be cheaper in DK than it is in the US….

Just checked, seems that currently prices in DK are the same as in the US when not adjusted for GDP.

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Onefoldbrain at 2024-02-14 01:48:09+00:00 ID: kqbs3mx


Taxes are also much higher and cost of living is (on average) a bit higher in Denmark. It's hard to compare on salary alone. But I believe ALL low income jobs in Denmark are better than those in the USA. I've never heard of someone needing two jobs in Denmark.

If you want low income jobs to be better, then you should stop all the illegal immigration. It's an endless stream of low income workforce that keeps the salary pushed down unnaturally. You are not helping immigrants - you are helping McDonalds. Legal immigration is good for everyone. Illegal immigration is bad for everyone except companies that rely on low salaries.

You might agree or disagree. I'm just pointing out that the problem is bigger and more complex than anyone can reliably explain why the US is the way it is. We have no minimum salary laws in Denmark. It's a complex dance of supply and demand of the workforce.

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FlatterFlat at 2024-02-14 01:37:27+00:00 ID: kqbo191


Yes, they make that. No, you can't live "well" on that, we have high taxes and very high cost of living.

Yes, 6 weeks is true. And free Healthcare etc.

It's usually a side gig for students.

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jabubub at 2024-02-14 02:05:26+00:00 ID: kqbsb4t


To an American, living well looks very different than what a Dane expects.

Danes generally do not have working poor class. We don’t have homelessness plaguing entire cities, nor trailer parks for working poor, or even a group of people in employment but still relying on food stamps etc.

Generally any full time employment in Denmark will provide you with enough income for housing, food, transportation and money for leisure.

So any full time employed Dane, in general, is living well.

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Sun_3200 at 2024-02-14 03:58:33+00:00 ID: kqc8kkb


Danes don't know what food stamps is - or at least I don't know.

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arminam_5k at 2024-02-14 04:25:31+00:00 ID: kqcc28k


If you are seriously asking the question of what it is, then food stamps, or SNAP, are like a food allowance from the government for people who don't have a lot of money. It helps them buy groceries so they can have enough to eat. It's kind of like a debit card for buying food at certain stores.

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jabubub at 2024-02-14 01:37:53+00:00 ID: kqbo3l3


Short answer is yes.

Living, anywhere except the 5 largest cities, you will be able to afford a used but decent car, nice 2 room apartment and eat healthy every day.

Health insurance is covered by taxes with no deductibles.

McDonald’s in Denmark also has solid career development opportunities for people working full time.

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forskaegskyld at 2024-02-14 03:31:28+00:00 ID: kqc4w12


For context, Denmark is geared towards both parents working. It's hard to support a family on a single wage here. But 2 parents working on mc Donald wage can afford a 4 room appartment in Copenhagen and feed their kids

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insaneartichoke at 2024-02-14 10:08:53+00:00 ID: kqdjmny


a 4 room???? Where do you have your data from

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enosprologue at 2024-02-14 11:57:09+00:00 ID: kqdge3z


“Anywhere except the 5 largest cities” is a big caveat. There aren’t that many McDonalds outside of those.

Also although it is $22/hr, I doubt many ordinary McD workers are on a full time contract.

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LitleKitty at 2024-02-14 12:46:20+00:00 ID: kqdlo06


You must be living under a rock. There's a ton of MCDs everywhere.

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madmandendk at 2024-02-14 01:48:12+00:00 ID: kqbpo2r


At the current exchange rate it would be around $20 per hour. $24 for night shift/Sundays. And around $40 during national holidays.

6 weeks of vacation is correct. 5 are mandated by law.

You can certainly have a decent life. Things are expensive here, but you won't go to bed hungry or have trouble paying rent.

Taxes would end up at around 31-32% depending on which area you live in, so you'd have around 2200 USD after tax each month if you only work the daytime shift.

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scubahana at 2024-02-14 04:29:57+00:00 ID: kqccm2w


And can go to the doctor when you’re sick, injured, or in need of better mental health.

And can get pregnant and have full medical support. Even a home birth with a specially trained midwife.

And can have time with your kids.

And can afford childcare.

And can go to university based on your grades and not take out student loans.

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The_Handicat at 2024-02-14 01:52:14+00:00 ID: kqbrodg


Yes, our country is superior to yours, it's not just a meme.

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-Vatt_Ghern- at 2024-02-14 02:01:17+00:00 ID: kqbupdf


After taxes, the effective wage is around like 13 dollars an hour.

But then those taxes pay for all the things an American would've had to pay for privately. Like healthcare and stuff. So in the end it's still more money.

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FileNational4031 at 2024-02-14 01:43:16+00:00 ID: kqboxc0


Not too far off for a +18 yr old, probably, including pension contribution and extra compensation for oddhours, etc.

Vacation also sounds about right.

Decent standard of Living Can mean alot of things, but you wont starve or need the basics with (almost) any full time job in DK.

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Laotzeiscool at 2024-02-14 02:08:06+00:00 ID: kqbspr6


Yes, if they are younger than 18, it’s closer to $13.

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PipiMcHeinz at 2024-02-14 02:04:05+00:00 ID: kqbpb1k


Sounds pretty close. I believe for a full time worker this is the hourly salary and if you are over the age of 18. While I haven't worked at McDonalds other places like smaller grocery chains often hire younger people between the age of 18 - 30 to run the stores. Just like McDonalds they have trainee and education programs for people who wants to stay in that line of work and wants to earn more. Depends where you live in Denmark I guess it's okay :) We also have unions that negotiate basics like vacation, sick leave, salary and makes rules for the workplaces, so they can't exploit their workers.

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anonhdmq8 at 2024-02-14 13:12:07+00:00 ID: kqeikb1


No, it’s more like $18 / hour, if you look at the payslips from r/dkloenseddel

Most, if not all of them are part time workers, so if they work 80 hours a month, they earn about $1500, which after tax is about $1100

I wouldn’t say $1100 would be anywhere close to living well in Copenhagen at least.

Another thing I personally noticed, a huge amount of people working at McDonalds (and grocery shops for that matter) are teenagers, and because they’re <18 they get paid closer to $10 / hour (also before tax)

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ForceFragrant9548 at 2024-02-14 13:15:07+00:00 ID: kqemv7x


and here is a high school student sharing his/her payslip. 66,5 hour paid 8.500 kr.

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LitleKitty at 2024-02-14 09:10:05+00:00 ID: kqdlhfd


Yes, i believe they can.

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Listeria08 at 2024-02-14 01:45:46+00:00 ID: kqc63kt


If you want some light bedtime reading, try googling McD vs Danish Unions.

Incidentally Tesla is battling the Swedish Union. Now we have a friendly rivalry with the swedes, but si hope they win that one thoroughly. In fact I hope they humiliate Tesla just a little;)

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imSpejderMan at 2024-02-14 02:21:27+00:00 ID: kqc5l5r


A 17 year old McDonald’s worker shared his/her payslip yesterday. Their base hourly rate is 82dkk ~ 11-12 usd. When he/she turns 18 that base pay will be just about doubled so 22 usd an hour would not be too far off. Keep in mind that that is without any extra compensation for early/late hours, overtime, work on weekends and so on. With that added on top the pay would be higher, but I won’t add that to the calculation as one isn’t guaranteed to be working odd hours.

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Deepdriller72 at 2024-02-14 01:48:12+00:00 ID: kqbx5li


That is base salary only.

Pension vacation money paid sick leave extra hourly bonuses at night or weekends etc comes on top of those 22$ an hour.

Almost 75% of Danish workers are in a union, and we fought decades to get here.

Yes that meme is actually underestimating Danish McDonald's workers rights.

Danish text, but online tools can translate for you.

Here is the collective business agreement their union has given them.

Danish version McDonald's DK CBA

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TeamoPortBou at 2024-02-14 08:33:27+00:00 ID: kqdhta4


Yes it's possible

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notheranontoo at 2024-02-14 02:04:05+00:00 ID: kqcc13e


Sure and then they also pay about 50% in taxes so essentially $11/h…. They can live on it but this is minimum wage and only enough to just survive.

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areyouhungryforapple at 2024-02-14 01:45:46+00:00 ID: kqc8d53


mcd won workplace of the year award in Denmark multiple times. The pay is definitely livable

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scubahana at 2024-02-14 01:48:09+00:00 ID: kqcc4r0


Yes, I worked at McDonald’s in Frederiksberg for over a year when I first came to Denmark. Even took my year-long maternity leave through them. They also sign you up to Pension/Sygesikring Danmark, which is one of the more popular supplementary insurance programs here.

Things like vacation time, parental leave, sick days, pension are negotiated by the work unions (of which the vast majority of workers in Denmark are members of). There are some big unions that specialise in certain industries (NNF focuses on bakery/deli/butchers and similar, Horesta is McDonald’s union and they also represent hotel/restaurant/tourism) so they negotiate with the employers’ unions (yes they also have their own unions) to get better terms for the employees. NNF is currently having problems with Coop on new terms for the contract period so my fellow bakery folk are stressing out right now.

Just for some insight I guess.

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Gudebamsen at 2024-02-14 03:36:31+00:00 ID: kqcgwyg


Former McD worker here.

Yes easily.

Also the hour wage will rise a bit more due to late night work, weekend work etc.

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