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Deepdriller72 at 2024-02-14 01:48:12+00:00 ID:
kqbx5liThat is base salary only.
Pension vacation money paid sick leave extra hourly bonuses at night or weekends etc comes on top of those 22$ an hour.
Almost 75% of Danish workers are in a union, and we fought decades to get here.
Yes that meme is actually underestimating Danish McDonald's workers rights.
Danish text, but online tools can translate for you.
Here is the collective business agreement their union has given them.
Danish version McDonald's DK CBA
Kvorning at 2024-02-14 05:59:35+00:00 ID:
kqcmmu8Holy shit, de får endda en betalt øl i pausen
OleBentsBallonCirkus at 2024-02-14 06:05:59+00:00 ID:
kqcn9cuDet er vildt!
Mediocre-One1 at 2024-02-14 06:46:42+00:00 ID:
kqcr1fhHaha, jeg troede du trollede os allesammen, så søgte efter det i dokumentet med den klare forventning at blive skuffet - men den holder sgu 😅
ViolinistNo1870 at 2024-02-14 06:42:14+00:00 ID:
kqcqn79Gad vide hvordan det fungere i praksis - McD sælger da ikke øl? Må de så gå over på bodegaen ved siden af og få refunderet udgiften?
Fun_Mistake4299 at 2024-02-14 07:12:34+00:00 ID:
kqcta39Der kan sagtens stå øl til personalet uden det sælges til gæsterne.
ViolinistNo1870 at 2024-02-14 08:36:54+00:00 ID:
kqd01hoNå ja, det kan der være noget om :)
Serious-Text-8789 at 2024-02-14 07:24:17+00:00 ID:
kqcu9o9Til daglig har de mulighed for gratis sodavand, (lillebror arbejder der)
Fair-6096 at 2024-02-14 06:35:31+00:00 ID:
kqcq1c4Ah, de skal betale en smule for mad og øl (12 kr) ellers skal det jo beskattes. Men jeg vil også have øl i min pause :-(
Dillerdilas at 2024-02-14 17:13:44+00:00 ID:
kqeqk5bDa jeg arbejdede der (2017) var der gratis sodavand/vand i løbet af vagten, du kunne vælge at melde dig til frokost hvor du betalte 12,5kr pr vagt for 75kr's mad og der var ikke nogen der sagde noget til at du vejede lidt ved siden af eller ændrede i burgeren. (dog ikke meget, men lidt rå løg der eller et ekstra slice ost her gjorde ikke nogen forskel.)
Den måde det fungerede på var egentligt bare at når du havde pause gik du ud og slog maden ind som en alm. bestilling på kassen, derefter trykkede du på en medarbejder knap og så gik du om og lavede det, eller hvis du ikke var i køkken så spurgte du pænt en af dem om det.
Edit: kom lige i tanke om det med øl, jeg så aldrig øl eller muligheden for det i løbet af de 11 mdnr jeg var der. Kun til personalefest osv.
Fair-6096 at 2024-02-14 22:13:18+00:00 ID:
kqg5qp6Jeg er allerede skuffet. Boykot McDonalds indtil der er øl i middagspausen for de ansatte.
Pokiman252 at 2024-02-14 06:35:05+00:00 ID:
kqcpzupLær at bruge komma.
Deepdriller72 at 2024-02-14 06:41:18+00:00 ID:
kqcqk6aDu kan venligst blot se bort fra min post, hvis den ikke behager dine øjne.
Det er det fede ved nettet, man bestemmer selv hvad man vil glo på.
Kan du have en fantastisk dag min positive ven, må alt godt ske på din vej 🤟
Pokiman252 at 2024-02-14 06:42:11+00:00 ID:
kqcqn14Du kan også vælge at se bort fra min kommentar istedet for at bruge tid på at kommentere på det
Deepdriller72 at 2024-02-14 06:42:54+00:00 ID:
kqcqpbxNu er det jo min post du svarer på, og ikke omvendt 😉
Pokiman252 at 2024-02-14 06:46:13+00:00 ID:
kqcqzxxHvad har det med dine valg om at ignore min kommentar at gøre? 😊
Deepdriller72 at 2024-02-14 06:50:56+00:00 ID:
kqcrf6fDen bliver svær at forklare når du ikke forstår princippet desværre.
,,,,,,,,,
Men her er en bunke, så kan du bruge dem som du vil.
Jeg vil igen kun ønske dig kærlighed og gode oplevelser på din vej min ven ❤️
Og håbe vi kan skilles som venner.
Der er ingen parter der vinder ved negative tanker.
Pokiman252 at 2024-02-14 06:54:41+00:00 ID:
kqcrr82Jeg sagde blot du skulle lære at bruge komma. Hvis du tager konstruktiv kritik som noget negativt så får du et hårdt liv. Jeg har ingen onde eller gode følelser bundet sammen med min kommentar end at det var svært at læse "pension vacation money paid sick leave extra hourly bonuses at night" fordi du ikke brugte komma.
Jeg er ked af at du tager tingene for personligt istedet for at tage kritik ind til dig og udvikle dig hvor du mener det er bedst for dig. Det kan tyde på lavt selvværd.
Stock-Check at 2024-02-14 07:08:04+00:00 ID:
kqcswg6Jeg elsker, at du kritiserer andre for manglende brug af komma, men ikke selv evner at sætte dem.
Pokiman252 at 2024-02-14 07:08:30+00:00 ID:
kqcsxrmJeg bruger engelsk komma.
nialyah at 2024-02-14 07:01:24+00:00 ID:
kqcsbziBor du under en bro og får det pænt stramt når nogen går på din bro?
Pokiman252 at 2024-02-14 07:02:25+00:00 ID:
kqcsf5tJeg forstår ikke hvad du mener.
Deepdriller72 at 2024-02-14 06:57:59+00:00 ID:
kqcs1ivDu har fået din vilje nu.
Så håber jeg det bliver den gode dag du fortjener ❤️
PS ord som abe ser jeg personligt ikke som konstruktiv kritik, men ok vi er alle forskellige, selv om ikke alle kan acceptere vi er det.
Pokiman252 at 2024-02-14 06:59:27+00:00 ID:
kqcs5z5En abe ville have modtaget konstuktiv kritik bedre end dig. Så ordet abe, var blot en komplement.
kitsch_kath at 2024-02-14 11:16:02+00:00 ID:
kqdckg0Måske vi bare skulle lade de perfekte grammatikere og retskrivere om at kritisere 🤷🏻♀️
Det klinger sgu så hult, når man ikke selv helt kan finde ud af at skrive ordentligt 😅
Hvis vi absolut skal give kritik kunne vi jo også prøve at gøre det konstruktivt i første hug - i stedet for at gemme den konstruktive del til senere.
Wide-Win-9087 at 2024-02-14 18:23:31+00:00 ID:
kqf2nmoLol, hvor er det sjovt, at du ikke kan finde ud af at sætte kommaer selv. I øvrigt kan du tilsyneladende heller ikke stave? Ironien!
hermanguyfriend at 2024-02-14 07:58:54+00:00 ID:
kqcx2aqHahaha du håndterer den interaktion godt. Ggwp kaptajn :')
wtbnewsoul at 2024-02-14 06:47:30+00:00 ID:
kqcr40fHvordan, bruger, man, komma, ordenligt,?
Me, no, understand,
Pokiman252 at 2024-02-14 06:49:57+00:00 ID:
kqcrbwhIstedet for at han skriver "pension vacation money paid sick leave extra hourly bonuses at night" som om det var en lang sætning. Så kan han dele det op med komma istedet for at skrive det som en abe.
_Awer at 2024-02-14 07:18:58+00:00 ID:
kqcttluDu må have en trist tilstedeværelse, jesus..
Pokiman252 at 2024-02-14 07:22:20+00:00 ID:
kqcu3v5Det har jeg også.
Mezmodian at 2024-02-14 07:29:47+00:00 ID:
kqcuppfShit McDonald betaler mere i løn, end min nuværende arbejdsgiver. X_X
anonhdmq8 at 2024-02-14 16:32:35+00:00 ID:
kqejhi2they don’t, people love to exaggerate this
Mezmodian at 2024-02-14 17:45:17+00:00 ID:
kqew1wtI mean the paper from the union that was linked says so. Also I did not even say what my employer pays.
AndersLund at 2024-02-14 11:43:46+00:00 ID:
kqdf3i7McAllan?
tango650 at 2024-02-14 08:16:01+00:00 ID:
kqcyf2gVacation money is included in the 22 USD. Also, pension has a lot of clauses so the usual demographic working in McDonalds likely don't get any.
Jacqques at 2024-02-14 08:54:55+00:00 ID:
kqd1f4nWhat do you mean a lot of clauses? I worked in Thansen a few years ago, they gave a pension. I can't remember the exact amount but I think it was 6 %?
tango650 at 2024-02-14 09:18:07+00:00 ID:
kqd366bWell, can you read the page 21 in the collective agreement he attached ? I.e. they only pay pension for people after 20 etc...
TroeLar at 2024-02-14 09:50:31+00:00 ID:
kqd5n6xJeg smider lige et link til samme uden omvejen forbi Google:
KoldKartoffelsalat at 2024-02-14 12:09:11+00:00 ID:
kqdhlosNot to forget free healthcare, free education all the way through university (here you pay the books yourself) and paid maternity leave.
Okay, that's not part of the agreement, but something we all get.
veropaka at 2024-02-14 17:58:39+00:00 ID:
kqeydh5Free healthcare but going to a dentist or psychologist will leave you with an empty bank account. It's good but it could be better.
nonfree at 2024-02-14 17:05:02+00:00 ID:
kqep1ow"Free" may be a little bit of a reach. We're paying half of our salaries every month in taxes to get those things. And with how healthcare is managed today, I'm not sure I think it's all that fair.
Would I rather have it like in the US, where something like a car crash can bankrupt you for life? Certainly not. But ya know, somewhere in the middle would be nice..
Overlord0303 at 2024-02-14 20:22:24+00:00 ID:
kqfmlqg"Free" obviously doesn't mean the service is produced at zero cost, that nobody pays, that it magically appears. This pointless point seemingly has to be brought up every single time healthcare is discussed.
Also, "middle"? Why? That's essentially just being less underinsured, and living with a significant, but just somewhat lower risk of losing everything, plus the added overhead and cost inefficency of a fragmented commercialized system.
nonfree at 2024-02-14 20:43:42+00:00 ID:
kqfqbs9I'm not sure where your hostility is coming from. Why not just keep a respectful discussion and pretend you're not typing on the internet?
Of course it's a fair point to bring up - and that's probably why it's coming up when relevant arguments are made.
There was no indication in neither his or the parent reply, that we're one of the heaviest taxed nations in the world - and honestly, when you say we have a high base salary, free healthcare, are unionized, has pensions, paid sick leave and vacation etc etc - i definitely see a high degree of relevancy in also mentioning why we have those things.
I think you're putting too much into the "somewhere in the middle" part, and you're heavily skewing it for some reason?.. - what's meant by it is that I wouldn't want the american way of doing things, but our way of doing them isn't exactly an ideal situation either. So some sort of compromise, like where we pay for healthcare and get "what's fair".
Overlord0303 at 2024-02-14 21:07:29+00:00 ID:
kqfuik6I understand that you feel you're making a fair point. You're entitled to that opinon. That doesn't really proof a point though. You're not presenting an argument here. Ergo, pointless. What is your premise? Do you assume that people in this debate believe that the cost of free public healthcare isn't financed by the state? Or that it is financed by the state, but through some other revenue source, beyond taxes? In which other context are we able to use the word "free" about any service, without being able to claim that it's actually not "free" by your defintion?
Also, your claim of the system not being ideal and being not fair, or less fair than your ideal, lacks a reference to which ideal state you have in mind. You claim that ideal is a middle, seemingly relative to the American system. What does that mean? What would make it more fair, ideal?
nonfree at 2024-02-14 21:45:55+00:00 ID:
kqg1510Hah - yea, I disagree :) there's a strong point in exactly the argument I'm making. You may not agree or fully understand, but that doesn't make it not-a-point. But that logic was definitely something.
And no , I probably won't be diving into a detailed argument about what I see as a fair way to structure our healthcare with you. Normally I wouldn't mind, but your way of starting (and continuing) this whole argument shows me fairly clearly that it's not going to be a healthy debate. You seem angry and fairly toxic for no apparent reason - i can't imagine anything good coming from it.
So as for healthcare, I'll leave it at "there's room for improvement" - hopefully we can agree on that, but if not it is what it is.
Have a nice night