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Do McDonald's workers in Denmark make the equivalent of $22 U.S. per hour? Can they live well on that? (leddit.danmark.party)

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There's a meme being debated right now that says McDonald's workers in Denmark make $22 U.S. per hour plus they have 6 weeks of vacation.

Is this accurate? U.S. McDonald's workers make much less than this.

Can you work at a fast food place like McDonald's and have a decent standard of living?

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The original was posted on /r/denmark by /u/drbootup at 2024-02-14 01:29:18+00:00.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

KoldKartoffelsalat at 2024-02-14 12:09:11+00:00 ID: kqdhlos

Not to forget free healthcare, free education all the way through university (here you pay the books yourself) and paid maternity leave.

Okay, that's not part of the agreement, but something we all get.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

veropaka at 2024-02-14 17:58:39+00:00 ID: kqeydh5

Free healthcare but going to a dentist or psychologist will leave you with an empty bank account. It's good but it could be better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

nonfree at 2024-02-14 17:05:02+00:00 ID: kqep1ow

"Free" may be a little bit of a reach. We're paying half of our salaries every month in taxes to get those things. And with how healthcare is managed today, I'm not sure I think it's all that fair.

Would I rather have it like in the US, where something like a car crash can bankrupt you for life? Certainly not. But ya know, somewhere in the middle would be nice..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Overlord0303 at 2024-02-14 20:22:24+00:00 ID: kqfmlqg

"Free" obviously doesn't mean the service is produced at zero cost, that nobody pays, that it magically appears. This pointless point seemingly has to be brought up every single time healthcare is discussed.

Also, "middle"? Why? That's essentially just being less underinsured, and living with a significant, but just somewhat lower risk of losing everything, plus the added overhead and cost inefficency of a fragmented commercialized system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

nonfree at 2024-02-14 20:43:42+00:00 ID: kqfqbs9

I'm not sure where your hostility is coming from. Why not just keep a respectful discussion and pretend you're not typing on the internet?

Of course it's a fair point to bring up - and that's probably why it's coming up when relevant arguments are made.

There was no indication in neither his or the parent reply, that we're one of the heaviest taxed nations in the world - and honestly, when you say we have a high base salary, free healthcare, are unionized, has pensions, paid sick leave and vacation etc etc - i definitely see a high degree of relevancy in also mentioning why we have those things.

I think you're putting too much into the "somewhere in the middle" part, and you're heavily skewing it for some reason?.. - what's meant by it is that I wouldn't want the american way of doing things, but our way of doing them isn't exactly an ideal situation either. So some sort of compromise, like where we pay for healthcare and get "what's fair".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Overlord0303 at 2024-02-14 21:07:29+00:00 ID: kqfuik6

I understand that you feel you're making a fair point. You're entitled to that opinon. That doesn't really proof a point though. You're not presenting an argument here. Ergo, pointless. What is your premise? Do you assume that people in this debate believe that the cost of free public healthcare isn't financed by the state? Or that it is financed by the state, but through some other revenue source, beyond taxes? In which other context are we able to use the word "free" about any service, without being able to claim that it's actually not "free" by your defintion?

Also, your claim of the system not being ideal and being not fair, or less fair than your ideal, lacks a reference to which ideal state you have in mind. You claim that ideal is a middle, seemingly relative to the American system. What does that mean? What would make it more fair, ideal?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

nonfree at 2024-02-14 21:45:55+00:00 ID: kqg1510

Hah - yea, I disagree :) there's a strong point in exactly the argument I'm making. You may not agree or fully understand, but that doesn't make it not-a-point. But that logic was definitely something.

And no , I probably won't be diving into a detailed argument about what I see as a fair way to structure our healthcare with you. Normally I wouldn't mind, but your way of starting (and continuing) this whole argument shows me fairly clearly that it's not going to be a healthy debate. You seem angry and fairly toxic for no apparent reason - i can't imagine anything good coming from it.

So as for healthcare, I'll leave it at "there's room for improvement" - hopefully we can agree on that, but if not it is what it is.

Have a nice night