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Let's dive into this $118-billion flaming piece of garbage they call a bipartisan "border security" bill (notthebee.com)

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's very telling that most of the articles you post are from notthebee.com.

Try living in the real world some time.

[+] [email protected] -14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Zombie, do you have anything to add? Like maybe how reliable notthebee is, hell even an example of notthebee lying for extra points.

Please remember that this sub is about discussing right wing stories.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I have nothing to say to you.

You've proven time and again to be a dishonest interlocutor.

[+] [email protected] -13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

interlocutor

You can just say person, or commenter or debater if you want to be specific. Using fancy words for the sake of fancy words does nothing but make you look pretentious and make the conversation harder to follow.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't want to have a conversation with you, so why would I care?

I will not be responding to you again.

Funny that you think using philosophy 101 words makes me pretentious though. Hilarious.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Why use fancy words when simple words better? /s

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Not The Bee regularly posts properly sourced highly factual articles that are heavily biased towards the right.

Fox News, OAN and NewsMax could all take a page from NTB's book because those three fail fact checks regularly.

[+] [email protected] -15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fox News has pay walls, not the bee doesn't and has mostly the same info. It's basically the same thing as wapo or commondreams or salon, just from the other side of aisle.

[email protected] has those as sources right now.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fox News is garbage, too. They have been shown to be proven liars in court multiple times.

Who took the Washington Post to court for defamation and won a record-setting judgement? Fox defames people and institutions as a matter of course.

Politics has those bad commentary sites (which I would prefer they didn't), but there are actual news sources posted there.

All I see here is commentary from people who are motivated to enrage conservatives based on spurious reasoning and culture war bullshit.

[+] [email protected] -12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Among other stupid things it says, let's focus on this one:

Yeah, Swamp judges get to rule in immigration cases after this bill is passed. Texas judges don't get a say.

When have Texas judges ever had a say in immigration cases?

Like I said: this is just bait to piss off conservatives for outrage clicks.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So why would you trust a site who employs a writer and editor who believe otherwise? This is an extremely basic principle of federalism.

It only makes sense if the site is used to piss off conservatives and get those clicks. They know they're lying.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone very wise recently told me:

Just crying and throwing a fit because people disagree with you doesn't make it a bad bill

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But a bill that effectively opens borders while keeping any sort of welfare is a bad bill.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Except it doesn't effectively open the border, where you getting that from? Democrats really want that aid for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan, so were willing to compromise. That's how this works. If the border is a really pressing and important issue, then I think there would be some motivation to make a deal quickly, even if republicans can't get everything they want. Otherwise it seems like the urgency is entirely manufactured for dramatic effect. I'm not saying anything new: an ex-president doesn't want the "border crisis" solved. Are republican voters going to catch on to such blatent duplicity?