Asklemmy

This will end exactly the same way the Twitter -> Mastodon thing ended.

Reddit will continue. A slightly worse Reddit, with more bots, more low-effort content, and less quality OC.

Moderation will degrade slightly as the admins replace protesting moderators with more obedient ones, and/or communities lose interest and use the new "voting" (lol) systems to pick admins which will give them the reliable dopamine hits.

A small percentage of Redditors, especially the power users, will move on. A small percentage in Reddit terms is a tidal wave for any other platform. Some percentage of that number of Redditors leaving will come here.

Lemmy & Kbin will experience growing pains. Issues caused by scaling up infrastructure, instance to instance friction, etc. These will get resolved with time. When things settle, we will have a fraction of reddit's userbase, but neither will we need more. We'll have enough to have stable, engaging communities which will slowly grow.

In other words, a mirror reflection of the Mastodon story.

I mean, if that's how they treat the mods, who would want to mod for reddit? It is unpaid work, the only reasons they are doing it would either be to feel empowered or to foster a community. What spez did is to tell mods they are powerless and to show them the community doesn't matter. Without good mods, people won't be sticking around.

If there is no effect, then why is he losing his ever loving mind over it? Why are they going to potentially change rules that have stayed the same since Reddit's inception as a result?

Zero impact on Reddit.

Reddit has 52 million daily active users and approximately 430 million users who use it once a month. In comparison, Lemmy has a mere 143k users and kbin has about 33k users. Reddit hasn't noticed that anyone left, and it never will.

Reddit will consolidate its platform and fully implement its ad business. 99.9% of users will stick around because they don't care that much about 3rd party apps. Reddit will then have a big revenue stream from ads, allowing it to achieve profitability and do an IPO, which will bring in another boatload of money. At that point Reddit has plenty of cash to invest in improving its in-house app, mod tools, spam filters, etc.

They sure are trying really hard to put a stop to the blackout they say is having no effect.
It may be true that the disturbance has minimal effect on overall site traffic and advertising revenue, but it's caught the attention of the media which could have much larger effects.
But the blackout isn't really what's catching most of the attention anymore, it's the mishandling of the situation that's ending up in the news most of the time now. Spez is bringing most of this on himself.

The louder they protest it's not doing anything, the more you can be certain that it is.

Of course he is going to say there is none. With the latest news how they are undeleting peoples comments and are going to replace mods; it is absolutely affecting the bottom line

I'd guess there's impact if they're forcing subs to reopen via threats and generally acting like tyrants with the self control of a toddler.

I think one needs to see the bigger picture here. The protest that started earlier this week might not have left a big dent in reddit yet. What it did though is raise attention and increase awareness for alternative news/content aggregators like kbin. They're not anywhere close to competing with reddit yet but the door got opened.

The shortsighted reddit politics basically helped to kickstart their own future competitors. If we do our best here and bring in good content, comment and get past only consuming there will be a real chance to become more appealing than reddit in the long run. I'm definitely here to stay.

Considering the volume of bots spreading venom about it, I have to say it's doing something

I think this is the wrong question to ask. The real question is if Lemmy is good enough for you to replace Reddit, and if not, how can we improve it. What happens to Reddit is irrelevant, and in my view it will continue spiraling towards being a hellhole of memes, ads and guerrilla marketing. Some people will stay there no matter what, and for me that's fine - I'm not sure if I have much to discuss with people like that in the first place.

I’m gone, that’s for sure. And it’s so much better. My blood pressure is lower.

We won't know until early July.

The protests aren't over yet, and Reddit is beginning to make demands to open up subs. You're beginning to see cracks in the system.

I don't think Reddit will change its mind, but I can see a lot of churn happening in subs happening based on those that are protesting and subs that aren't.

This could be Reddit's Digg moment, but it is going to play out a lot slower and we'll probably start seeing Lemmy posts on Reddit.

They are threatening to remove mods who won’t reopen subreddits, you really believe it isn’t impacting them? They are getting desperate.

I don't really care. I'm here now, deleted my 12 year old account in the process. People thinking Reddit will die are delusional. The Reddit as us old people know it has died years ago, it just became unbearable now.

They are allowing accessibility third party apps free api access and they are forcing some subreddits to open. It didn't have the full effect we desired but it did make a difference.

I don't think it will do much. The blackout should stay longer but some of the subs stopped already. After all I don't really that it has little to no effect for Reddit right now. I'm pretty sure he is just saying that to tell people : Comeback, what you are doing is useless.

This incident won't be the last straw, but it will be the turning point of a slow and general decline.

I believe there was a report saying that they're changing policy to allow moderators to be voted out. If true, to me if they are announcing something so drastic, which can be manipulated by bots, then there is an impact of some kind.

I certainly don't think Reddit is going to die out from this; its far too big. But I do think that Spez has managed to irrevocably change the culture of the site forever (particularly by forcing out the long time users). I personally have no intention of going back despite having been active on the site almost daily since 2010

I agree with the people who have been saying that this will be one of many instances that pushes people away from Reddit. It won't be all at once, but some of us (hi!) have migrated permanently, and the next fuckup will see Lemmy better prepared, and the one after that even better prepared, etc.

I think Huffman knows 2 things:

1. The redditors complaining right now are from the older community, alot of them are probably mods and a lot of them use 3rd party apps.

2. These people are also a tiny minority of reddit users, and plenty are addicted to reddit.

He knows that mods can be replaced, if they don't just come back groveling, looking for their next fix. Reddit will suffer in the shortterm, but there are simply too many normie users who will continue using reddit and bringing in revenue for it to really matter.

I am new here i have migrated from reddit few days ago and i love it here. For me the reddit could not pick worse day to to destroy the api since few weeks ago friend told me about existance of third party apps because i was complaining a lot about how many ads is on reddit so i very recently switched to infinity which was much better than original app. However here i am using jeroboa and it is awesome looks like Gnome designers made it also web app is very nice i love rss feed feature i can put messages notification to my feed so i get the reply notification there. I am very happy here and i hope i will be a valuable member.

Personally I don't care if the protest is having an effect or not because it's been already said that it will not change reddit's policies. Reddit is over for me, I'm just waiting for the API changes so that i can't use my mobile client of choice anymore. In contrast, I'm finding interesting and vibrant discussions and comments on here, which is looking like the early Reddit days, and I'm very glad for this.

For me it had a huge impact. Whatever happens with reddit, I am going to stay with lemmy. Lemmy can only get better and if there is an issue as it is federated it can be circumvented; even lemmy can be forked if there are issues with the codebase. With reddit you are only left with hope that it gets better. I choose the option where I have certainty. And besides that, the community is less bot-driven on here.

That's probably what will happen, but it's also likely this is the first of a long series of fuck-ups (well, not the first technically, bit the first of these proportions) that will slowly kill the site.

Either way, I don't care that much. I discovered the fediverse and as long as there's content here I'm happy with it. Of course reddit will still be a good source of information, just not a place to spend time in. I mean, if I need specific info on a subject reddit is still the place to look at, but I won't scroll it or post in it anymore.

A different internet is possible, but all we can do is use the alternatives we already have