No, stupidity is a growing global threat. Measles is just riding shotgun.
this post was submitted on 27 Jan 2024
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I don't disagree with you, but I'm going to take it a step further and say selfishness is the root cause. It's not that people are too stupid to understand, it's that they are too selfish to care to learn. You could call that a form of stupidity, but there are plenty of intelligent, educated people who fully understand the validity of the threat and still don't give a fuck because they don't think it personally affects them.
You can be smart in one area and brain dead dumb in others. I would absolutely call it both selfishness and stupidity.
Sure, but a stupid person can act in a way that isn't selfish and help other people. A selfish person who is willing to harm others for personal gain, whether smart or stupid, is a problem for society. Selfish stupid people are really the worst because they will cut the branch we're sharing without realizing that they have just as much to lose.
I'd say to specify the type of selfishness as entitlement.
I call it conservativism, which is just narcissism wrapped in a flag.
Well put
So disappointed in the human race RN...
Same. If I had some savings I'd go live in the bush.
Humans have such shitty shitty memories. Unless something happened last week it's basically unknowable.... Nazi? Never heard of it. Preventable diseases? Fuck if I know.
Unless it's hurting them RIGHT NOW it basically never happened for most morons.
That's the UTAH way, you know. Doesn't happen to us. We don't have COVID right now, why should get vaccinated to possibly help ourselves or protect anyone else.
In Utah drivers keep refusing to wear seatbelts (they call it government overreach) and most of the fatalities on the road might otherwise have been prevented. But hey - some people only learn their lesson the hardest possible way. No amount of logic or intelligence will sway them, only the hard concrete will make a dent in their skulls and by then - it's too late.
I just call it ~ evolution ~. Let nature weed out those genes.
If only it would weed them out a bit faster. I'd pitch in a dollar.
Well done Andrew Wakefield, you colossal fucking twat.
Who?
The cunt that started the anti-vaxx movement so he could push his own version of the vaccine, because money, of course.
Globally and in the US, vaccination rates against measles—via the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine (MMR)—have fallen in recent years due to pandemic-related health care disruption and vaccine hesitancy fueled by misinformation.
It's beyond sad, but the only way out seems to be natural selection of vaccinated people at this point. There's literally no cure for (children of) antivaxxers who won't listen to experts.
Unfortunately that's not how it works. Once herd immunity is broken, shit gets bad.
There are probably some great visualisations of this on youtube that can show the maths of this far more eloquently than I can explain it, but if you take a look at that you'll probably think "oh fuck."
Not only can many not have vaccines due to allergies or it interfering with other medications/conditions, but they can also catch diseases before they get theirs, they can miss boosters accidentally, and vaccines aren't 100% effective.
Everybody loses from this. Not just the kids of anti-science parents.
Yep, I caught all three, Measles, Mumps, and Rubella, before I was old enough to get the vaccine.
This was because the MMR vaccine had a 5% failure rate back then and I spent a lot of time in hospitals as an infant due to a birth defect.
I caught chicken pox around the same time as well.
Unfortunately it’s not only kids of anti vax people who will be susceptible to these diseases. Some kids are not vaccinated because of medical reasons and for some kids the vaccination didn’t make them immune. Plus kids who haven’t gotten their jabs yet, because they are too young, will be put at great risk because herd immunity is failing.
it wouldn't have to be a global threat, we'd almost eradicated measles but some parents refuse to do what's right and prefer to let their kids die and get horribly sick than get them the required vaccinations. Such people should never be allowed to have kids in the first place, because being antivax is a sign of abberant and dangerous mental illness.
My father nearly died of polio before the shot existed. My mother remembers getting it when she was little. These stupid anti-vax fucks are undoing a ton of work that came before them.
My aunt had polio also but she survived with a bad limp. We got our polio vaccines when I was a kid, very simple and easy, and nobody was dumb enough to suggest that vaccines were "bad." We could see the truth - and the importance of being vaccinated. The human race has sure devolved into a morass of ignorance since then.
Eugenics people. The state of the world and the sheer stupidity of people makes me think that its actually the only solution.
Education
I think we just need one giant inescapable global vaccination of humanity -- the nuclear war that is coming soon. It's coming sooner than people think, it's not just a mere few months away. It could really be any moment any day now.
And that will be the biggest vaccination against ignorance and human idiocy we could hope for.
Pretty terrifying as a parent of an 11 month old right now. You don't get the MMR shots until 12 months.
Have a 9 month old and am also concerned. At least I am on maternity leave until September and so he's not in daycare yet.
That is a huge plus. Sounds like an incredible maternity leave policy!
My wifes job gave her tons of flexibility and we are both remote workers at this point (for the most part I go in occasionally) so we are incredibly fortunate to not have to deal with daycare either.
The other silver lining is that it does seem to be mainly people and children that went to known hotspots. The article talks about khazikstan. So I guess we'll avoid international airports for the next few months!